acook@athena.mit.edu (Andrew R Cook) (01/16/91)
Summary of Netexpertise on VGA cards/monitors based on reponses to a info. request posted about 2 weeks ago. I have received on the order of 35 responses. I make no guarantees about the accuracy of the information contained, it is only a reflection of what other people have told me (along with reading that I have done of spec sheets, reviews ...). Of the video choices available ( XGA, TI 34010, VGA), the collective opinion was that VGA (sVGA) is the video standard of choice at this time for a number of reasons. First of all is cost. VGA was the only one that made it under my limit of $1000. Some people have reported acquiring VGA hardware(monitor&card) for under $600. Aside from cost, VGA is also the best supported of the three. There is little software support for either XGA or TI34010 at this time. What support there is for these does not take full advantage of the boards' capabilities for speed or colors. One of these(or similar coprocessor assisted scheme) may become very important in a year or so, but until then, VGA is the best choice(price and support considered). It was suggested however, to get as good a monitor as possible, to maximise the likelihood of its compatibility with future standards. On to specifics : Video Board: There were basically 4 main types of VGA boards mentioned. These included ATI boards, Paradise boards, Trident 8900 boards, and Tseng 4000 boards. The general opinion was that Paradise boards were the slowest, with ATI next. There was a lot of controversy over which were the fastest, but it is either the Trident or the Tseng based boards. It is difficult to compare, for they differ depending on which type of video operation you are trying to do, who built the board, and finally how good the drivers are for it. It seemed that the most popular, and well spoken of, board was the Orchid Prodesigner II( based on Tseng chipset). This board has enough memory on it(1MB) to support 256 color modes all the way through 1024x768, will emulate EGA, CGA, Herc., the windows drivers are reportedly the fastest and most durable, and has a wide vareity of other drivers. The Trident 8916 board also got similar responses, but many fewer people mentioned them. The ATI VGA wonder+ board also looks like a good board, but is a little slower, can only support 16 colors at 1024x768(512KB max), and based on the number of posted ATI driver questions and gripes - it seems that its driver support may not be as good. It could also be that more people have ATI boards, but responses mailed to me did not support this conjecture. A few clone boards were also mentioned, often costing 1/2 of what these name-brand boards do. However, one would be well advised to use caution in buying a clone board. You no longer have the confidence that the board is as well designed or supported or that quality drivers will be written for it. This is not universally true, just a caution. TI 34010 boards: I thought I'd just mention a few things for those of you who are interested, or have the money to spend. It has been found that currently, these boards(NEC, Hercules, ...) do not provide the speed increases that they are capable of producing, especially for Windows. The problem appears to be twofold: First of all, the way windows works is to first process all screen information, then pass it to the video driver which places it on the screen. This does not take advantage of the board's own image processing ability, thus only modest speed increases have been observed (~20%). Speed is also limited by the PC bus. It is not currently possible to send bitmap information to the board as fast as it can deal with it. The biggest speed improvements were found in 256 color modes. Currently these boards cost 2-3 times as much as their VGA counterparts. It is probable that in the near future, some of these problems will be worked around. Monitors: It has been almost universally agreed that monitors capable of 1024x768 non-interlaced operation are a better choice than interlaced ones. There are a number of reasons for this. First of all, it has been reported that the flicker associated with interlaced operation can be anywhere from simply irritating to nearly unusable. Another strong argument is that it is possible to get a non-interlaced monitor for about the same price as a good interlaced multisync monitor. There are some deals out there, if you are willing to live with interlacing. Some mail-order clone companies have their own brand of monitor, which can be had for as low as $400. Some of these are actually really good deals, but again I would be concerned with manufacturer support and overall construction quality. Some people reported being quite satisfied though. The last reason for buying a non-interlaced monitor had to do with lasting value. As video standards evolve, interlaced operation will die out. New standards will still support your non-interlaced monitor(most will require it). If you look at a monitor as an investment, a non- interlaced one is a better value; you will not want to replace it as soon as you might an interlaced one. In our stated price range($1000 total) the most commonly mentioned monitors were the Sony 1304 and the Seiko 1450. Both of these cost about $650 mail order, and support VGA up to 1024x768. They are both built around the same Sony Trinitron tube, and both have very good pictures(sharp). The Sony appears to be a better choice because the case looks better, and the controls are more conveniently placed in the front of the monitor. Another monitor that was mentioned was the Relisys RE-1520(?). As a warning, I would recommend staying away from it, for there were some bad reports about its quality. I know one person who's family bought three of them because of the great price, but got burned when all three of them had to be sent to Relisys for repairs within the first month. The turn-around time was also poor. If one is willing to increase the price range a few hundred dollars, it was highly suggested by a few people to take a look at the NEC 4D. This monitor can be gotten for $1000-$1100 mail order. It's particular advantages include a larger screen (16", 15" visual), digital controls and memories, and quality. It has been chosen by PCMAG ("1024x768 Monitors" - a while back) as an editors' choice. NEC is known for producing quality monitors(3D - also an editor's choice), and also for feel & ease of use. The digital controls are a bonus that the Sony and Seiko monitors do not have. It was reported that with these monitors, it is ocassionally necessary to turn the knobs that control picture size and position when changing modes, 800x600 particually. On the NEC 4D, all you have to do is enter the settings once, then if you change modes, just hit the recall button to get those stored settings back. This is a simgular advantage to someone who changes modes often. All controls are also mounted on the front. No more reaching around to the back or to the side. I have gotten literature from NEC, and the monitor looks very good to me. Jo-bob says check it out. Closing comments: If you are only using windows, you could probably go with an interlaced monitor to save money. I suggest this because it has been commented that when windows is used at 1024x768 on 13" or 14" monitors, the text is too small to be read comfortably. If you plan to get a bigger monitor, then disreguard this. Also, drivers for 1024x768 are currently quite slow, especially at 256 colors. If you really want windows at 1024x768x256, get a 33 MHz 486 and/or wait for coprocessor- assisted graphics boards to come of age(TI 34010, etc.). Some of the biggest differences in video boards/monitors in the same class(ie/ 1024x768 non-interlaced VGA) seems to be vendor support. What are return/repair policies? What kind of drivers are currently available? How good are they? Will the company cheerfully produce new drivers? Most major name-brand companies score well in these areas. Be wary of clone stuff though, but don't ignore it. For myself, I plan to wait a bit until I can afford an NEC 4D and an Orchid Prodesigner II. If you have valuable comments/corrections/additions and feel like sending them to me, I would appreciate them. If I get a lot of responses about certain issues, I will post a followup. Thanks for all your contributions. (Now if someone can tell me of a good place to get hardware cheap in the Boston area . . . sigh). Andy Cook acook@athena.mit.edu