a752@mindlink.UUCP (Bruce Dunn) (01/18/91)
> plum@mpx1.lampf.lanl.gov writes: > Person: Plum, Michael A. > > When running in 800x600 mode, WINDOWS 3.0 runs fine, except when I use > WORD FOR WINDOWS and EXCEL. In the case of WORD FOR WINDOWS, I still get > just 6.5 inches across the screen, same as for VGA. Microsoft has attempted > to solve the problem with no success. Orchid refuses to believe there is > a problem with their driver. > This problem is part of a class of problems (or better yet, obscure areas) related to Super VGA modes. The display which you get for WfW seems to depend on both the actual 800x600 driver supplied by the video card manufacturer, and by which fonts are used with the driver. I have been looking at video cards for use with WfW, intending to run in 800x600 mode in order to see more of the page. I have observed the following behaviours in 800x600 mode, using drivers supplied by the video card manufacturers: 1) ATI VGA Wonder card: setting up Windows with the 800x600 driver gives about 8 inches horizontally of the page visible. The standard VGA fonts are still used. Since the same number of pixels are used for each letter, letters are slightly smaller on the screen. 2) Brand X card using Trident chip set: same behaviour as ATI card 3) Brand X card using Tseng chip set: the driver supplied with the card still gives only about 6 inches of visible page (as seen by the ruler). However, the installation of the driver also changes the fonts specified in the win.ini file to the font set designed for the IBM 8514 1024x768 monitor. (note, a font such as Helvetica is labled HELVE in its VGA version and HELVF in its 8515 version). 8514 fonts are also specified for system use. Since the 8514 fonts use more pixels to draw each character, the net result of changing to 800x600 is to increase the definition that each character is drawn with, rather than using the increased pixels to increase the amount of paper seen on the screen. -- Bruce Dunn Vancouver, Canada a752@mindlink.UUCP
plum@mpx1.lampf.lanl.gov (Plum, Michael A.) (01/18/91)
When running in 800x600 mode, WINDOWS 3.0 runs fine, except when I use WORD FOR WINDOWS and EXCEL. In the case of WORD FOR WINDOWS, I still get just 6.5 inches across the screen, same as for VGA. Microsoft has attempted to solve the problem with no success. Orchid refuses to believe there is a problem with their driver. My question is this: Does anyone else have this problem with the Orchid ProDesigner Plus card and driver? I am using a Dell system 325 (386 machine) and a NEC MultiSync 3D monitor. This problem does not occur with the 1024x768 driver in interlaced mode (I can't use that mode for too long because of the flicker problem). Help!
6600wise@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Mike Schmitt) (01/19/91)
Several people have posted about a problem with getting W4W to recognize screen fonts. Here's what I discovered: Windows recognizes the resolution of any device in two ways: how SETUP defines and how the device itself defines it. For example, if you look in SETUP.INF in the SYSTEM directory, you'll see under the [Display] section (or whatever it is) the resolution - for example, "100,96,96" (standard VGA resolution) and "100,120,120" (8514/a resolution). Setup will install the fonts based on the SETUP.INF description - e.g. if you change the standard VGA driver to "100,120,120" and run Setup, you'll get 8514/a fonts. Nice and big. However, W4W relies on the resolution reported by the -device-, not the SETUP.INF file. Thus, if the device (meaning the driver) reports "100,96,96", then W4W will recognize it as VGA resolution and attempt to use VGA fonts. However, since Setup -removes- the VGA fonts when it installs the 8514/a fonts, W4W is unable to load the font and you'll get the system font. I discovered this while first playing around with an Orchid Pro- Designer II. W4W displayed nothing but the system font. However, a new set of drivers I just got from the Orchid BBS (1-415-683-0327) corrected the problem; the 800x600 driver now operates at 8514/a resolution, and looks good, too! :-) Mike 6600wise@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu