mr@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli) (01/10/91)
In <1991Jan9.095046.86103@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> cie221u@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Neiger) writes: > Does anyone have or know where to get a 640x400x256 colour driver for > the Paradise 256K video boards. Due to memory limitations, VGA only > goes up to that resolution. Assuming you can access the Internet via ftp, cica.cica.indiana.edu (129.79.20.22) has the Paradise 640x480x256 (not 640x400) driver in the MicroSoft Supplemental Drivers Library. The driver name is PVGA480.DRV in the file pub/pc/win3/sdl/sdldisk2.zip. -- michael regoli mr@cica.cica.indiana.edu regoli@iubacs.bitnet ...rutgers!iuvax!cica!mr
mikka@sssab.se (Mikael Karlsson) (01/10/91)
In article <9552@cica.cica.indiana.edu>, mr@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli) writes: >In <1991Jan9.095046.86103@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> >cie221u@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Neiger) writes: > >> Does anyone have or know where to get a 640x400x256 colour driver for >> the Paradise 256K video boards. Due to memory limitations, VGA only >> goes up to that resolution. > >Assuming you can access the Internet via ftp, cica.cica.indiana.edu >(129.79.20.22) has the Paradise 640x480x256 (not 640x400) driver in >the MicroSoft Supplemental Drivers Library. The driver name is >PVGA480.DRV in the file pub/pc/win3/sdl/sdldisk2.zip. Is that the one that appeared on comp.binaries.ibm.pc some time ago? That one works fine for me with 640x480x256 and 800x600x16, but I can't get the 1024x768x16 to work. I get a FatalExit somewhere in GetDeviceCaps (I can try it again and post the complete FatalExit dump it that would help anyone.). Seems to me like it's a software-only problem. Any ideas? Thanks, /Mikael
JMH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (01/10/91)
I called WD(Paradise) recenttly and was told that they are working on a 640x400
x256 driver, to be available sometime in Feb.
________ Jim Hodgers
/___()___\ JMH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
\ ______ / May your faithful saint bernard
\ ____ / run away with your yellow Alfa Romeo
\____/ (Found in a fortune cookie)tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones) (01/11/91)
I have seen this request enough times that I know I am not the only poor slob with an unexpandable Paradise Graphics card with 256K video RAM. Sure I could buy a new VGA board but it hardly seems wort it to make the one builtin to the motherboard useless just to get a few more colours. All I want is to occasionally use Windows in 256 colour mode to edit images. How about zapping a driver that is 640x480 into 640x400 anybody with enough experience out there able to tell me whether I just zap a few bits and off I go or is there more too it than that. I have run the 640x480x256 driver on my lowlife card and I DO get 256 colours but the screen overwrites in the middle or so. It is close! Sure I know it would be a SNAIL but for the few times, I'll wait! tj .
billj@uop.edu (Bill Jackson) (01/13/91)
cie221u@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Neiger) writes: >Does anyone have or know where to get a 640x400x256 colour driver for the >Paradise 256K video boards. Due to memory limitations, VGA only goes up to that >resolution. i know that this has been pounded into the ground umpteen times, but... **** NO! **** it hasn't been written yet. i have the same problem and it's very frustrating. however, i've heard that paradise should have one ready sometime in february. bill -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= INET: bjackson@madvax.uop.edu | Major: Computer Engineering billj@uop.edu | Minor: Are you kidding?!? GPA: Shuddup! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
jdwood@monsanto.com (01/15/91)
In article <27901f6f.735f@uop.uop.edu>, billj@uop.edu (Bill Jackson) writes: > cie221u@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Neiger) writes: > Does anyone know where a paradise 640x400x256 driver can be found? ... I just called Paradise (714)932-4900 and they just posted the new WIN30DRV.EXE (self-extracting archive of all the windows drivers including the new 640x400x256). The file is quiet large and I can't afford the 45 minutes of long distance charges to download the file. Would someone PLEASE call the BBS at (714) 753-1234 and download the file and then post it on cica or somewhere. If you have an HST 9600 modem you can call (714) 753-1088.
dorsai@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Gregory D. Moncreaff) (01/16/91)
In article <1991Jan15.095016.3065@monsanto.com> jdwood@monsanto.com writes: >In article <27901f6f.735f@uop.uop.edu>, billj@uop.edu (Bill Jackson) writes: >> cie221u@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Neiger) writes: >> Does anyone know where a paradise 640x400x256 driver can be found? ... > > I just called Paradise (714)932-4900 and they just posted > the new WIN30DRV.EXE (self-extracting archive of all the windows > drivers including the new 640x400x256). The file is quiet large and I > can't afford the 45 minutes of long distance charges to download > the file. Would someone PLEASE call the BBS at (714) 753-1234 > and download the file and then post it on cica or somewhere. If you > have an HST 9600 modem you can call (714) 753-1088. has anyone tried this driver yet? when i attepted to use it it was phenominally slow. also it seemed to suffer from a bug that would scramble parts of the horizontal scanlines. also there was incredible amounts of flicker ( sparkly flashes of light ) when i tried winfract's color cycling option...
akm@cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) (01/16/91)
In article <1991Jan15.095016.3065@monsanto.com> jdwood@monsanto.com writes: >In article <27901f6f.735f@uop.uop.edu>, billj@uop.edu (Bill Jackson) writes: >> cie221u@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Neiger) writes: >> Does anyone know where a paradise 640x400x256 driver can be found? ... > I just called Paradise (714)932-4900 and they just posted > the new WIN30DRV.EXE (self-extracting archive of all the windows Actually, the driver has been on cica for around a week. It is not in /pub/pc/win3/video, and is called "win30drv.zip". It contains, among other things, the 640x400x256 and 800x600x256. It also has a "fast" 800x600x16 and a "fast" 1024x768x16. I have the fast 800x600x16 installed, and all that I can say is that it is not slower than the older driver. Should have done some benchmarks before zapping the old sytem, I guess. QUESTION for the net: my card's documentation does not say that it can do 800x600x256. I don't know why, because it certainly will have enough memory if I put in 512K on the card. So, my question is: has Paradise done something to the driver to allow this to happen? If so I am upgrading my card pronto. I'd be grateful for any info. kartik -- Anant Kartik Mithal akm@cs.uoregon.edu Network Manager, (503)346-4408 (msgs) Department of Computer Science, (503)346-4156 (direct) University of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403-1202
etxsral@california.ericsson.se (Lars Nilsson) (01/17/91)
In article <1991Jan16.044139.1615@cs.uoregon.edu> akm@cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) writes: >In article <1991Jan15.095016.3065@monsanto.com> jdwood@monsanto.com writes: >>In article <27901f6f.735f@uop.uop.edu>, billj@uop.edu (Bill Jackson) writes: >>> cie221u@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Neiger) writes: >>> Does anyone know where a paradise 640x400x256 driver can be found? ... >> I just called Paradise (714)932-4900 and they just posted >> the new WIN30DRV.EXE (self-extracting archive of all the windows > >Actually, the driver has been on cica for around a week. It is not in >/pub/pc/win3/video, and is called "win30drv.zip". It contains, among >other things, the 640x400x256 and 800x600x256. It also has a "fast" >800x600x16 and a "fast" 1024x768x16. I have the fast 800x600x16 >installed, and all that I can say is that it is not slower than the >older driver. Should have done some benchmarks before zapping the old >sytem, I guess. I would be very pleased if someone could mail me the new drivers to use window with 640x400x256. The Ericsson Corp. does not have ftp access out to open world and I have tried to called Western Digital BBS but the lines over the atlantic is to bad for a download. -- Lars Nilsson Ericsson Telecom AB , Stockholm - Sweden E-mail: etxsral@california.ericsson.se Fidonet: Lars Nilsson @ 2:201/108.7
ken@point.ne1300.ingr.com (Ken Poore) (01/17/91)
jdwood@monsanto.com writes: >In article <27901f6f.735f@uop.uop.edu>, billj@uop.edu (Bill Jackson) writes: >> cie221u@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Neiger) writes: >> Does anyone know where a paradise 640x400x256 driver can be found? ... > and download the file and then post it on cica or somewhere. If you > have an HST 9600 modem you can call (714) 753-1088. ^^^ ^^^^ Please do not call the above number. I did and some tired-sounding receptionist answered. -- |Ken Poore |Systems Specialist | |ingr!poore forwarded to|Region V Technical Services| |ne1300!point!ken |Reston, Virginia | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones) (01/17/91)
I just got the driver downloaded off cica and installed in my machine. It is WAY BETTER than I expected!!! Sure there is snow, sure it is slow, but there are times when I want 256 colours and this is the ticket. THANK YOU PARADISE! It is a little bizarre to watch sometimes, in wingif the image starts from the bottom then flips over when loaded. Games like asteroids (atmoids) are pretty pathetic due to snow. Windows Paint looks good in 256 mode and Print Screen captures 256 colours so you can paste into paint from wingif or whatever. Just so the world doesn't get too excited and spend the net downloading the 470K file, there is snow EVERY time the video updates. Yup, even when you move the critter, er, mouse. It isn't fast, but I am stuck with an on-board paradise (Commodore PC50 II) (DELL machines have same I gather) that I cannot expand the RAM. When it looked like there wasn't going to be a driver for 256x400x256 I started eyeing the mother board to see if I could hack on more video RAM. Seemed like a waste to disable the video and spend hard cash on a slightly better VGA for the few times I REALLY NEED (not the want times!) 256 colours. One day I will get a Hercules graphic station card or the equivalent hot graphics board to give 2**24 colours etc... but until then I will live with snow. Again, THANKS PARADISE!! tj .
mlord@bwdls58.bnr.ca (Mark Lord) (01/18/91)
In article <1991Jan17.030037.17857@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones) writes: <I just got the driver downloaded off cica and installed in my machine. < <It is WAY BETTER than I expected!!! < <Sure there is snow, sure it is slow, but there are times when I want <256 colours and this is the ticket. Perhaps the snow is not universal. On my system, with a Paradise vga 16+, there is NO snow with this driver. -- ___Mark S. Lord__________________________________________ | ..uunet!bnrgate!mlord%bmerh724 | Climb Free Or Die (NH) | | MLORD@BNR.CA Ottawa, Ontario | Personal views only. | |________________________________|________________________|
rdw2030@venus.tamu.edu (01/19/91)
In article <1991Jan17.030037.17857@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>, tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones) writes... >I just got the driver downloaded off cica and installed in my machine. > >It is WAY BETTER than I expected!!! > >Sure there is snow, sure it is slow, but there are times when I want >256 colours and this is the ticket. The snow that everyone keeps talking about is evidently a flaw in the Paradise VGA card. I had a VGA Plus card for over a year (until it quit working today for whatever reason). I popped in another Paradise VGA card (this one is a 16-bit, unlike the last one, which was 8-bit). The "snow" problems went away. One thing I noticed from the VGA+ documentation... there was no mention of the 640X400X256 mode. It is a freebie "feature" on that board... in other words, an unsupported mode. This new 16-bit VGA board DOES mention the 640X400X256 mode in the documentation, and there is NO SNOW! By the way, this card seems to be just a 16-bit version of the VGA+ card, only it was OEM'd by EPSON. So don't blame the driver, which works fine! I guess it could be written to bypass the hardware problem on those cards, but it's unlikely. I'm surprised you guys never noticed this snow problem with programs like VPIC and VGIF, etc. Now... as for memory expansion. I'm tired of 256K VGA already! I'm not afraid to solder... Is there a way to hack some more memory onto a 256K board? There are RAM socket sites on this board, but no sockets... just soldered-over plate-through holes. Alas... Any advice, other than get a different board (you can't beat FREE after all!) :-) Mark C. "Bro!" Lowe - KB5III
ccfac@nt.sait.edu.au (01/21/91)
In article <1991Jan9.095046.86103@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>, cie221u@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Neiger) writes: > Does anyone have or know where to get a 640x400x256 colour driver for the > Paradise 256K video boards. Due to memory limitations, VGA only goes up to that > resolution. > > Thanks, > David > -- Yes, if you have internet ftp access, in CICA.CICA.INDIANA.EDU, under the video directory, there is a file called WIN30DRV.EXE. This is a self ex- tracting file. In there are Paradise Windows drivers for all sort of modes. 640x400x256 included. I have tried it, but rather disappointed, because the screen flickers (snow) when the mouse if moved around under Windows. Still give it a try. Cheers Francis Chan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CCFAC@SAIT.EDU.AU Francis Chan University of South Australia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
mlord@bwdls58.bnr.ca (Mark Lord) (01/29/91)
In article <27901f6f.735f@uop.uop.edu> billj@uop.edu (Bill Jackson) writes: < <>Does anyone have or know where to get a 640x400x256 colour driver for the <>Paradise 256K video boards. Due to memory limitations, VGA only goes up to that < <it hasn't been written yet. i have the same problem and it's very frustrating. <however, i've heard that paradise should have one ready sometime in <february. Err.. time to update your data. :) This driver has been available on cica since mid January, as part of the win30 driver kit from Paradise. -- ___Mark S. Lord__________________________________________ | ..uunet!bnrgate!mlord%bmerh724 | Climb Free Or Die (NH) | | MLORD@BNR.CA Ottawa, Ontario | Personal views only. | |________________________________|________________________|
emigh@ncsugn.ncsu.edu (Ted H. Emigh) (01/30/91)
In article <5474@bwdls58.UUCP> mlord@bwdls58.bnr.ca (Mark Lord) writes: >In article <27901f6f.735f@uop.uop.edu> billj@uop.edu (Bill Jackson) writes: >< ><>Does anyone have or know where to get a 640x400x256 colour driver for the ><>Paradise 256K video boards. > >Err.. time to update your data. :) This driver has been available on cica >since mid January, as part of the win30 driver kit from Paradise. The driver mentioned is does not always work. For example: 1) The wallpaper is not centered correctly (OK, so big deal). 2) Corel Draw, for one, will not work correctly. The main drawing screen is fine, but many of the full screen options go below the horizon (usually the OK and CANCEL buttons).
ccfac@nt.sait.edu.au (01/31/91)
In article <27901f6f.735f@uop.uop.edu>, billj@uop.edu (Bill Jackson) writes: > cie221u@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Neiger) writes: > >>Does anyone have or know where to get a 640x400x256 colour driver for the >>Paradise 256K video boards. Due to memory limitations, VGA only goes up to that >>resolution. > > i know that this has been pounded into the ground umpteen times, > but... > > **** NO! **** > > it hasn't been written yet. i have the same problem and it's very frustrating. > however, i've heard that paradise should have one ready sometime in > february. > > bill If you try and download from Cica.cica or Monu6.CC.Monash.edu.au in the Win3 directory under video directory file called Win30Drv.exe. In this self- extracting archive, there is a driver for paradise 640x400x256 colour driver. Be warned, You will most probably get the snow effect on the screen with this driver, especially when there is movements on the screen (e.g. mouse). Never the less, it works ok, and you can have 256 colour bitmaps on the background. Try it out and see for yourself Cheers Francis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CCFAC@SAIT.EDU.AU Francis Chan University of South Australia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------