[comp.windows.ms] I want a manual!!!!!

rowland@hpavla.avo.hp.com (Fred Rowland) (01/31/91)

I'm mad.  I recently installed MicroSoft's latest and greatest, consisting
of Windows 3 and Word for Windows.  I was new to any form of Word, so I
had a few questions, particularly with font management (now there's a weird
area for you!).

So I grabbed my trusty MicroSoft Word for Windows User's Reference.  The
first thing I tried failed--I got no response when I typed the command.
Well, shame on me for my lousy typing.  So I tried again, VERY carefully.
Failed again.  Maybe a typo in the manual.  I gave up on that one.

Tried another totally different subject.  This time the command, properly
typed, produced an error message and hung the machine.  Very reproducible.
I now know a sure fire way to hang the machine from inside Word for Windows.

Tried another.  This had to do with printer setup and I suddenly realized
that the terminology was for the old Windows (pre-3).  Got mad and stayed
that way.

Called MS and asked if there was a manual for WfW on Windows 3.  No.  Asked
how they had the gall to advertise the hell out of a product that was
really a do-it-yourself-if-you-can-figure-out-how kit.  Got mumbled at.

Are there any books (obviously not from MS) about WfW on W3?


Fred Rowland
Hewlett-Packard, Avondale Site

dak@hparc0.HP.COM (Dave Kruger) (02/01/91)

G'day Fred,

The troubles you have experienced are typical of any poor bastard who has
attempted to grapple with Microsoft's atrocious documentation.  Fair dinkum,
I've never known a company so adept at producing such consistently bad
documentation--W4W documentation is the most unusable yet.

I too have experienced the problems you speak of.  I too have had the system
hang, or fail with "Unrecoverable Application Error" (UAE).  What *really*
browns me off is Microsoft's apparent lack of concern for their customers,
and their defensive attitude to criticism.

We subscribe (at great expense) to their Communique support service.  I have
contacted them twice about problems I have had with W4W and was treated with a
great deal of disdain (not to say downright rudeness) by a character named
Justin.  Apparently, I'm the only person in the world who gets UAE--"No one
else has complained to us", Justin said.  "But this is a general problem with
Windows 3", I said, "Surely, you must get many complaints from people with
UAEs."  His reply: "Look, we have sold seven million copies of Windows 3.  Do
you think we would not know of consistent UAE problems?"  Needless to say, I
received no help from *that* call.  On the second occaision that I tried their
support, I was faxed a "solution" that bore no resemblence to the reported
problem.  Next time I call, I will ask for the manager.

As for the W4W User's Reference, you could probably use it as a door stop--the
bloody thing is certainly not useful as a source of information.

Shame, Microsoft, shame.  Get your act together, or get out.  I'm sick of you.

There, I feel much better now.

I will repeat the offer I have made in other postings:  If anyone at Microsoft
is listening, do you have any comment/defence?

Regards,

Dave Kruger
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