kji@vpnet.chi.il.us (Ken Isacson) (03/07/91)
I am currently running WIN 3.0 on a 386 in the ENHANCED mode. I looking for tips on how to run Paradox 3.5 from WIN 3.0 in this mode. Currently WINDOWS is complaining about Paradox being a PROTECTED mode application. Well, I want to run Paradox in the PROTECTED mode. Any suggestions sure will be appreciated! -- __________________________________________________________ Ken Isacson Sysop - Board Of Trade BBS GT 016/001 kji@vpnet.chi.il.us (815) 753 - 0042 ----------------------------------------------------------
strobl@gmdzi.gmd.de (Wolfgang Strobl) (03/09/91)
kji@vpnet.chi.il.us (Ken Isacson) writes: >I am currently running WIN 3.0 on a 386 in the ENHANCED mode. >I looking for tips on how to run Paradox 3.5 from WIN 3.0 in this >mode. Currently WINDOWS is complaining about Paradox being a >PROTECTED mode application. Well, I want to run Paradox in >the PROTECTED mode. >Any suggestions sure will be appreciated! Old DOS applications (which is Windows lingo for everything which isn't a Windows program) must be created with a DOS extender supporting the Dos Protected Mode Interface (DPMI), in order to run in protected mode (Windows programs do it anyway). DPMI is quite new and starts to replace the older VCPI (Virtual Control Program Interface, if I remember correctly). There are already a few programs which support the DPMI (Zortech C/C++, for example), but many programs still are restricted to VCPI (or use their own extender interface). What does the Paradox 3.5 documentation say about it? Wolfgang Strobl #include <std.disclaimer.hpp>
hanj@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jining Han) (03/09/91)
In article <1991Mar07.013042.26527@vpnet.chi.il.us> kji@vpnet.chi.il.us (Ken Isacson) writes: >I am currently running WIN 3.0 on a 386 in the ENHANCED mode. > >I looking for tips on how to run Paradox 3.5 from WIN 3.0 in this >mode. Currently WINDOWS is complaining about Paradox being a >PROTECTED mode application. Well, I want to run Paradox in >the PROTECTED mode. > I think this is caused by the fact that both Windows 3.0 and Paradox 3.5 by default try to use high memory to its maximum, so when you run Paradox 3.5 under Windows (Ehn mode), there is bound to be contention and conflict. So if you want to run Paradox in the PROTECTED mode, you need to run it from DOS, just as you have installed it from DOS. I have not tried to modify the pif file for Paradox nor reconfigure Paradox (running the Custom scrip), but I would certainly try various combinations to see if it works. > >Any suggestions sure will be appreciated! > >-- >__________________________________________________________ >Ken Isacson Sysop - Board Of Trade BBS GT 016/001 >kji@vpnet.chi.il.us (815) 753 - 0042 >---------------------------------------------------------- -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jining Han | Indiana University ---------------------------------------------------------------------
press@venice.SEDD.TRW.COM (Barry Press) (03/09/91)
In article <1991Mar8.234630.20522@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> hanj@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jining Han) writes: >In article <1991Mar07.013042.26527@vpnet.chi.il.us> kji@vpnet.chi.il.us (Ken Isacson) writes: >>I am currently running WIN 3.0 on a 386 in the ENHANCED mode. >> >>I looking for tips on how to run Paradox 3.5 from WIN 3.0 in this >>mode. Currently WINDOWS is complaining about Paradox being a >bound to be contention and conflict. So if you want to run Paradox in the >PROTECTED mode, you need to run it from DOS, just as you have >installed it from DOS. I tried to do this a while ago, and while I wasn't completely successful, I think I know why by now. First, there are a couple of parameters in the paradox command line you need, one of which (I think) was -real, which shuts down the protected mode slop. ANother may have been -share, but I'm not sure. I seem to recall something in a readme file or in one of the manuals. Borland themselves were somewhere between helpful and clueless. Once you get past the protected mode trouble, however, you're not home free. At that point I had paradox complaining about not enough DOS files/buffers. I of course ran them to very high numbers in config.sys but with no effect. What I have since seen, but never tried due to lack of further interest in forcing paradox to run, is a setting in the [386enh] section of system.ini that lets you put in a line like this (ta da): PerVMFiles=dd The default is 10, which works for most apps, but not for paradox. Presumably, bumping this past the paradox minimum will do the trick. (Actually, there is an amazing trove of things in the sysini*.txt files. DualDisplay was also a major fix for UAE's and such in my VGA/MDA setup, automatic display detection notwithstanding). -- Barry Press Internet: press@venice.sedd.trw.com
itkin@mrspoc.Transact.COM (Steven M. List) (03/13/91)
kji@vpnet.chi.il.us (Ken Isacson) writes: >I am currently running WIN 3.0 on a 386 in the ENHANCED mode. > >I looking for tips on how to run Paradox 3.5 from WIN 3.0 in this >mode. Currently WINDOWS is complaining about Paradox being a >PROTECTED mode application. Well, I want to run Paradox in >the PROTECTED mode. Paradox (and most protected mode programs) WON'T run under windows in protected mode. HOWEVER, I experimented just a little bit and found that if you first customize Paradox to run in REAL mode or use the -real command line option, then when Paradox starts up, W3 complains about a Protected mode application. However, it DOES create an icon for it! So if you maximize the icon, Paradox RUNS FINE! At least, the testing I've done has run fine. Curious, eh? -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ : Steven List @ Transact Software, Inc. :^>~ : : Chairman, Unify User Group of Northern California : : itkin@Transact.COM :
Wah.Chuck@samba.acs.unc.edu (Wah Chuck) (03/15/91)
>Paradox (and most protected mode programs) WON'T run under windows in >protected mode. HOWEVER, I experimented just a little bit and found >that if you first customize Paradox to run in REAL mode or use the >-real command line option, then when Paradox starts up, W3 complains >about a Protected mode application. However, it DOES create an icon >for it! So if you maximize the icon, Paradox RUNS FINE! At least, >the testing I've done has run fine. Curious, eh? Try paradox -real -win at the command line. -- ============================================================================= Extended Bulletin Board Service, Research & Development Office of Information Technology, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill internet: bbs.acs.unc.edu or 128.109.157.30