sysnett@cc.newcastle.edu.au (04/15/91)
Recently, there have been a couple of messages posted here concerning problems with a Tseng 4000 chipset SVGA card operating in 256 colour mode in 386 enhanced mode. The first from Terry (terryr@uno.cs.mu.OZ.AU) in article <1991Apr11.151004.1815@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> where he says > The first is for a friend who has a 25 MHz 386 DX, (Windows 3.0) > AMI Bios dated 3 March 89, IDE controller, TSENG VGA Card, 2 Meg of RAM, > Quantum Hard drive 82 Meg, running Dos 3.3 with no TSR's. > His machine reports UNRECOVERABLE APPLICATION ERROR when ever he tries to > print a Word for Windows doc over seven pages. Other errors include DISK > ERROR, NO ROOM ON FIXED DRIVE, (there is 12 meg free). Any suggestions. I replied - >I have a similar configuration (except with 4Mb of memory, Connor 100Mb IDE) >and have seen the same problem until I switched video drivers back to 16 colour >mode. > >You didn't say what type of Tseng chipset you have. I have a Tseng MegaEVA >1024 (with 1 Mb display memory and Tseng 4000 chipset). This has a larger >than normal video ROM so I also have the following line in my SYSTEM.INI file >(in the [386enh] section) - > > emmexclude=c400-c7ff > >The preliminary version of the Tseng 4000 drivers (dated 18th, 21st and 29th >May, 1990 from the TSENG4K.ZIP file on cica) were causing me problems in 256 >colour mode using Paintbrush (incorrect loading of BMP files, new clean drawing >surface corrupted with random pixels) as well as UAEs in Word for Windows. > >The Orchid ProDesigner II Windows 3 Drivers (dated 1st Sep 1990) from the >ORCHID-PD2.ZIP file on cica - also exhibit the same problems in 256 colour >mode. (This board uses the Tseng 4000 chipset as well). Another from Andrew Williams (andreww@uniwa.uwa.oz.au) in article <1991Apr13.125238.17769@uniwa.uwa.oz> says - > My system is a 386/25, with AMI bios, C&T chipset, Tseng ET4000 >card (from Tseng), Tsengs 1024x768x256 windows driver, 4Mb of ram, using >himem.sys. I can display all of the images ok, even full screen, using >Windows image viewers, but I can't install them as desktops! Stephen Smith (smsmith@hupxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu) in article <1991Apr13.232322.7922@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> replies - >Funny that you ask this question now--another person on the net >asked this same question a couple days ago. Since he had the >same monitor and card as I do (Orchid Pro II, Sony 1304), I was >also curious if it failed on my machine. So I converted a >large .gif file to .bmp and tried to display it in enhanced >mode. It didn't work; in fact, EXACTLY the same thing happened >to me as happened to you. BUT, you can display large .bmp files >in standard mode. You just can't do it in enhanced mode. > >I tried a 787k .bmp file (1024x768x256) as wallpaper in standard >mode and had NO problem. But I also get an "unrecoverable application >error...terminating current application" if I try the same thing >in enhanced mode. I also tried to do it with a 590k .bmp file >(768x768x256) with the same results. Does anyone else with a Tseng 4000 chipset SVGA card have similar problems? I would particularly like to know if there are any "non-preliminary release" or other Windows 3 SVGA drivers for the Tseng 4000 that work in 386 enhanced mode using 256 colours. -- Tony Nicholson, Network Group, | E-mail: sysnett@cc.newcastle.EDU.AU Computing Services, McMullin Building, Uni of Newcastle, NSW, 2308, AUSTRALIA
sysnett@cc.newcastle.edu.au (04/16/91)
I tried to reply using mail, but it bounced with 'Unknown user', so I'll post the reply here. In a mail message to me, quimby@rpi.edu says - >We've been trying to run a BOCA card w/ Tseng 4000 chipset in 256 >color mode without much success. It seems to run ok, until you >pop a couple of windows up (paintbrush,help,index), then it >goes to lunch with App errors. Same symptoms as most others I've had a reply from. >The Boca people suggested that maybe possibly it was the machine's >BIOS, so I'm going to try it in a known good (Everex) machine sometime >this week. In the meanwhile we run in 16 color mode. You might want to report that many others with different 386 PCs are also having the same problem with Tseng 4000 drivers in 256 color mode. Maybe they can "duplicate" the problem or provide an updated set of Windows 3 drivers. -- Tony Nicholson, Network Group, | E-mail: sysnett@cc.newcastle.EDU.AU Computing Services, McMullin Building, Uni of Newcastle, NSW, 2308, AUSTRALIA
Aaron.Roydhouse@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Aaron Roydhouse) (04/17/91)
In article <1991Apr15.144613.9981@cc.newcastle.edu.au>, sysnett@cc.newcastle.edu.au writes: >Recently, there have been a couple of messages posted here concerning >problems >with a Tseng 4000 chipset SVGA card operating in 256 colour mode in >386 >enhanced mode. > > [List of various peoples problems with ET4000 drivers] > >Does anyone else with a Tseng 4000 chipset SVGA card have similar >problems? I have one 386 at with with an Orchid Pro II, and another at work as well as a 386SX with an Orchid Pro/e (also ET4000). - I do NOT have any problems with Word docs over 7 pages - I do NOT have any problems with Pagemaker 3 or 4 - I DO have the problem with wallpapers >1024 by about 729 Although I never tried standard mode, I found that whether the bmp was 16 or 256 colours didn't matter, but it had to less that a particular height (about 729, but the actual figure eludes me now). It occurred to me at the time that it seemed to be the whole screen minus the height of the row of icon at the bottom. It would seem that it is perhaps the size of the wallpaper _in memory_ that matters, rather than the source bmp size. Anyone know how Windows stores it? DVD or DVI? >I would particularly like to know if there are any "non-preliminary >release" or >other Windows 3 SVGA drivers for the Tseng 4000 that work in 386 >enhanced mode >using 256 colours. I almost definitely have the preliminary release (as supplied with the Pro II). There was a tsng4311.zip file in uploads on cica which certainly has _different_ versions, but I found it hard to tell which were newer so I haven't tried them. They were ostensibly supplied with another brand of ET4000 board. Aaron. -- _ Aaron "The Entity" Roydhouse / Ph: +64 4 726-363 A/H: +64 4 850-988 / \ -=[ The Cave MegaBBS ]=- / Fax: +64 4 4996301 BBS: +64 4 643-429 |@/ aaron@cavebbs.gen.nz / Mail: P.O. Box 11-704, Wellington, N.Z. \__ aaron@comp.vuw.ac.nz / Quote: "Death: To stop sinning suddenly"
jmerrill@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jason Merrill) (04/17/91)
>>>>> On 15 Apr 91 04:46:11 GMT, sysnett@cc.newcastle.edu.au said: > Does anyone else with a Tseng 4000 chipset SVGA card have similar problems? > I would particularly like to know if there are any "non-preliminary release" or > other Windows 3 SVGA drivers for the Tseng 4000 that work in 386 enhanced mode > using 256 colours. I recently uploaded some Tseng 4000 chipset drivers dated January 4th 1991 to cica. They are in uploads/tsng4411.zip or something similar. I have had no problems with them...I got them from the Diamond Computer Systems support BBS (my card is a Diamond SpeedSTAR). Jason Merrill jmerrill@jarthur.claremont.edu
andreww@uniwa.uwa.oz (Andrew John Williams) (04/17/91)
Most of the replies here about problems using large .BMPs as wallpaper seem to say that it a)- works in standard mode, and b)- works with slightly smaller pictures Unfortunately, I differ in both cases. I have tried installing some 640x480x256 pictures as backgrounds (in center of screen), while running in 1024x768x256 mode, and even this crashes if the file is larger than about 260k. Some files- smaller than 260k- worked fine, evn when tiled. In addition, I tried starting windows up in standard mode with a 1024x768x256 BMP file as a desktop, and this failed too. Maybe there is a connection between this and the fact that my BMP size limit seems to be about 260k, instead of 470k and 700k, as reported by others? Andrew Williams Physics Department, University of Western Australia andrew@earwax.pd.uwa.oz.au OR andreww@uniwa.uwa.oz.au (note extra 'w')
gw1e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gabriel M. Wachob) (04/18/91)
I have had similar problems... Sounds like a buggy driver.. (I have been complaining about this for about 2.5 months now...) -gmw
07790@tanus.oz.au (Brant Campbell) (04/21/91)
I use a video card with the Tseng 4000 chip set and have no problems in 256
colour and enhanced mode - give me a ring in Sydney 6920352 and I may be able
to tell you something.
Brant Campbell
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