dworshak@coral.bucknell.edu (04/18/91)
I am comtemplating buying a Deskjet 500 for use with Win 3.0 and Winword 1.1. I will probably also get ATM to clean up fonts. Has anyone had any experience with this setup, either good or bad? Any recommendations??? While we're on the subject, does anyone have any recommendations on the Deskjet 500 printer (for use at home) ? Please email any responses to me at: dworshak@coral.bucknell.edu Thanks very much. Todd Dworshak
wyle@inf.ethz.ch (Mitchell Wyle) (04/19/91)
In <1991Apr17.221917.3135@coral.bucknell.edu> Todd Dworshak dworshak@coral.bucknell.edu asks: >I am comtemplating buying a Deskjet 500 for use with Win 3.0 and Winword 1.1. >I will probably also get ATM to clean up fonts. >Has anyone had any experience with this setup, either good or bad? >Any recommendations??? yes; do it. >While we're on the subject, does anyone have any recommendations on the >Deskjet 500 printer (for use at home) ? it's great. if you can't afford laser, go with the deskjet. HP makes great printers. The mean time between failures and general quality is fantastic. It will last you forever. 300 dpi is as good as a laser. The dj500 comes with scale-able fonts for windows3. My wife threw everything else out and went with those. They're great. Who needs ATM? CG-times that comes with the deskjet 500 is better than any of the fonts her boss and co-workers had been using before. Of course, her dissertation and papers are not nearly as good looking as my latex stuff, but she gets to use the mouse, has an integrated thesaurus, spell-checker, and wysiwig, bla-bla. Her lab just bought slide-write. Slide-write makes pretty pictures and can save them as tiff files. I was very impressed with wfw's ability to integrate those tiff files. It's faster and BETTER than the mac. Can't touch the NeXT, though...
Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca (Joel Murray) (04/20/91)
I would also highly recommend the above combination (see subject header).
I have a Deskjet Plus, Winword, ATM, and (of course) Windows 3.0. The
combination makes for excellent results: my girlfriend's MA thesis, which I'm
typing (lucky me), looks great--almost laser quality.
A word of caution, though: make sure that you buy the right kind of paper.
Photocopier or laser paper with no cotton content will allow the ink to bleed
into the fibers. Of course, the result is ugly. Just make sure that any paper
you buy contains some amount of cotton. Usually, the word "bond" in the title
of the paper package will indicate cotton content.
By the way, it took me a couple of tries before I found the most appropriate
paper to use. The result, however, was worth it: my colleagues at work (who
aren't very computer literate to begin with) ooh and aah at whatever documents
I take to work....
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=============================================================Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca (Joel Murray) (04/22/91)
> jcwasik@PacBell.COM writes: > > Msg-ID: <8830@pbhyf.PacBell.COM> > Posted: 22 Apr 91 17:44:13 GMT > > Org. : Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA > Person: Joe Wasik > > Note that most cheap papers have a preferred side. Check the label on the > ream: "print this side up". P.S. In the DJ, cheap paper seems to work > very well. Note that bond needn't be expensive: a 500 sheet package of Custom Bond (20 lb) costs only $9.95 Canadian. > > > > = Joel Murray / Vancouver, British Columbia / Canada, Eh? = > > Canada? What state is that in? :-) Groan. Another Al Capone.... :-) -- ============================================================= = Joel Murray / Vancouver, British Columbia / Canada, Eh? = = Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca "Kuso ga okiru." = =============================================================
jcwasik@PacBell.COM (Joe Wasik) (04/23/91)
In article <28103@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> wyle@inf.ethz.ch (Mitchell Wyle) writes: >I am comtemplating buying a Deskjet 500 for use with Win 3.0 and Winword 1.1. >I will probably also get ATM to clean up fonts. >Has anyone had any experience with this setup, either good or bad? >Any recommendations??? I have this exact configuration. Winword works as advertised with the DJ500. The 'print' option on the File-Manager menu does not work properly. It tries to print one more line than the DJ can handle. Hopefully this bug in the DJ driver will be fixed soon. The expensive ink-catridges on the DJ can be re-filled. The cheapest way is to do it your self. You need a syringe, 1 inch, 22 gauge needle. The more CCs, the better. It takes 12+ CCs to refill a cartridge. Use any black ink. Inject it slooowly into hole in top of cartridge. Use cotton swap to clean bottom of cartridge (use water!). Quality with my ink (script [sp?], yellow box, black letters) is excellent. A little darker than the original so draft mode looks more like formal mode. Hope this helps... -- Joe Wasik, Pac*Bell, 2600 Camino Ramon, Rm 4E750V, San Ramon, CA (415)823-2422 email: jcwasik@clib.PacBell.COM or [...]!pacbell!clib!jcwasik "I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything"
jcwasik@PacBell.COM (Joe Wasik) (04/23/91)
In article Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca (Joel Murray) writes: ... about the Deskjet 500: >A word of caution, though: make sure that you buy the right kind of paper. >Photocopier or laser paper with no cotton content will allow the ink to bleed >into the fibers. Of course, the result is ugly. Just make sure that any paper >you buy contains some amount of cotton. Usually, the word "bond" in the title >of the paper package will indicate cotton content. Note that most cheap papers have a preferred side. Check the label on the ream: "print this side up". P.S. In the DJ, cheap paper seems to work very well. > = Joel Murray / Vancouver, British Columbia / Canada, Eh? = Canada? What state is that in? :-) -- Joe Wasik, Pac*Bell, 2600 Camino Ramon, Rm 4E750V, San Ramon, CA (415)823-2422 email: jcwasik@clib.PacBell.COM or [...]!pacbell!clib!jcwasik "I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything"
robertt@hp-vcd.HP.COM (Bob Taylor) (04/23/91)
> The 'print' option on the File-Manager menu does not work properly. It tries > to print one more line than the DJ can handle. Hopefully this bug in the > DJ driver will be fixed soon. One more time - this is a problem with file manager, not the DJ driver. File Manager only checks to see if the top of a character will fit on a page, not the entire character. It therefore asks the DeskJet (and many other printers) to print out of their printable areas. There was a bug in the older DESKJET.DRV drivers (now fixed) that could cause some funny results when this happened, but this has been fixed. The DeskJet 500 Scalable driver just clips the text - it prints the parts of the characters that do fit on the page. Until Microsoft fixes File Manager, the work around is to print the file using Notepad, which works fine. bob taylor HP Vancouver
drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston) (04/25/91)
In article <5551@mindlink.bc.ca> Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca (Joel Murray) writes: > >A word of caution, though: make sure that you buy the right kind of paper. >Photocopier or laser paper with no cotton content will allow the ink to bleed >into the fibers. Of course, the result is ugly. Just make sure that any paper >you buy contains some amount of cotton. Usually, the word "bond" in the title >of the paper package will indicate cotton content. Actually, high cotton content (25% or more) is the worst you could use. I haven't tried any paper that claimed to have cotton that gave good results; what brand are you using and does it say how much cotton? The absolute best I've seen so far is James River Corp.'s "Pro-Tech" short-grain laser bond paper (cat.#94162). I've also gotten good results (for <$) from Benchmark High-speed Xerographic (99-120). However, some other non-bond xerographic paper I tried was yucky, so you just have to experiment. I don't know how Canadian dollars convert to real money :-), but the Benchmark was less than US$5.00/ream and the Pro-Tech was less than $7. -- David R. Preston drp%dosbears.uucp@ingres.com The world hadn't ever had so many moving parts or so few labels. D. R. Preston 584 Castro St. #614 SF CA 94114 USA
Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca (Joel Murray) (05/03/91)
> drp@dosbears.UUCP writes: > > Msg-ID: <221@dosbears> > Posted: 24 Apr 91 23:56:24 GMT > > Org. : DosBears > Person: David R. Preston > > > Actually, high cotton content (25% or more) is the worst you could use. > I haven't tried any paper that claimed to have cotton that gave good > results; what brand are you using and does it say how much cotton? > > The absolute best I've seen so far is James River Corp.'s "Pro-Tech" > short-grain laser bond paper (cat.#94162). I've also gotten good > results (for <$) from Benchmark High-speed Xerographic (99-120). > However, some other non-bond xerographic paper I tried was yucky, > so you just have to experiment. I don't know how Canadian dollars > convert to real money :-), but the Benchmark was less than US$5.00/ream > and the Pro-Tech was less than $7. Note that I never mentioned _high_ cotton content. The paper I use doesn't mention how much cotton it contains, but I would guess that it contains less than 10 percent. The brands I use are DomTar Victory Bond and Custom Paper Ltd. Custom Bond, both of which are probably found only here in Western Canada. Concerning the cost, US $1.00 = CAN $1.20 (approximately). The cheapest paper we have here is around $9.00. By the way, I tried Hammermill Fore DP Long Grain ("for Hi-Speed Xerographic Copiers/Offset Duplicators/Laser Printers") and was really disappointed; the bleeding was so bad that the final copy was unusable (for business, anyway). -- ============================================================= = Joel Murray / Vancouver, British Columbia / Canada, Eh? = = Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca "Kuso ga okiru." = =============================================================