magid@sandstorm.Berkeley.EDU (Paul Magid) (04/27/91)
It strikes me as being a good idea to have a list of all new uploads to cica. I do believe that the site is moderated and the service would not be too much effort, and I would benifit users greatly. Paul
mr@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli) (04/30/91)
In <1991Apr27.005127.15710@agate.berkeley.edu> magid@sandstorm.Berkeley.EDU (Paul Magid) writes: >It strikes me as being a good idea to have a list of all new uploads to >cica. I do believe that the site is moderated and the service would >not be too much effort, and I would benifit users greatly. >Paul Speak for yourself! :) If you are running Unix, you can create your own list of recent uploads from the INDEX file. The following set of commands will give you the most recent ten uploads to cica. (This doesn't include those files in the "uploads" directory since we don't catalog them into the INDEX file until they've been placed in the proper location.) grep -v \* INDEX | sed -e 's/\n//' | awk '{print $2, $1}' | sort -rn | head -10 Ugly, eh? I don't think posting this would be a benefit to anyone. Those with ftp access normally get a copy of the INDEX on a daily basis anyway. -- michael regoli mr@cica.indiana.edu regoli@iubacs.BITNET ..rutgers!iuvax!cica!mr
brian@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Brian Hoffman) (05/01/91)
In article <1991Apr30.162306.3744@cica.indiana.edu> mr@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli) writes: >In <1991Apr27.005127.15710@agate.berkeley.edu> >Ugly, eh? > >I don't think posting this would be a benefit to anyone. Those with >ftp access normally get a copy of the INDEX on a daily basis anyway. > >mr@cica.indiana.edu Yeah right, those of us with ftp access get the INDEX file daily, and then have to hunt through the whole damn thing just to get the descriptions of the recent stuff. It would make it a whole lot more convenient if you would make a separate file containing the weekly uploads and their descriptions. But then again, this is UNIX, nothing is simple. -brian ______ she's staring as the lights are curling off into the dark. and the fuel tank's erupting underneath a rain of sparks. and the birds all leave the tree down in the corner of the park. with his neck bent back on the top of the seat, he looks so relaxed despite the heat.
keating@rex.cs.tulane.edu (John Keating) (05/01/91)
brian@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Brian Hoffman) writes: > mr@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli) writes: >> I don't think posting this would be a benefit to anyone. Those with >> ftp access normally get a copy of the INDEX on a daily basis anyway. > It would make it a whole lot more convenient if you would make a separate > file containing the weekly uploads and their descriptions. But then again, > this is UNIX, nothing is simple. Perhaps, instead of a separate file, Michael (remember, folks, he keeps cica moving out of the foodness of his heart) could, when adding new titles to the index, place a special character, (#, $, *, etc...) to each line with that day's new upload. A quick, dirty program could probably be written to remove the previous day's marks before he updates it. John Keating -- +---------------------------------------+ +---------------------------+ | Looking for genealogical histories of | | keating@rex.cs.tulane.edu | | Keating, Migan, Pope, Hobbs, Wyland. | | John William Keating, III | ++---------------------------------------+----+ +-----------------------+ | "My heart is stone and still it trembles |--| "If you were right, | | The world I have known is lost in shadow." | | I'd agree with you!" | +---------------------------------------------+ +-----------------------+
dalbrich@oregon.uoregon.edu (05/01/91)
Perhaps a compromise... (which is easy to do) I've noticed the INDEX file on cica lacks dates on files. With the date of creation touched to be appropriate, anyone scaning the INDEX file can see what is new. -Dan .. >>I don't think posting this would be a benefit to anyone. Those with >>ftp access normally get a copy of the INDEX on a daily basis anyway. >> >>mr@cica.indiana.edu > > > Yeah right, those of us with ftp access get the INDEX file daily, and then > have to hunt through the whole damn thing just to get the descriptions of the > recent stuff. > > It would make it a whole lot more convenient if you would make a separate > file containing the weekly uploads and their descriptions. But then again, > this is UNIX, nothing is simple. > > -brian > ______ > > she's staring as the lights are curling off into the dark. and the fuel > tank's erupting underneath a rain of sparks. and the birds all leave the > tree down in the corner of the park. with his neck bent back on the top of > the seat, he looks so relaxed despite the heat.
elmanad@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) (05/01/91)
In article <1991Apr30.162306.3744@cica.indiana.edu> mr@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli) writes: >In <1991Apr27.005127.15710@agate.berkeley.edu> >magid@sandstorm.Berkeley.EDU (Paul Magid) writes: > >>It strikes me as being a good idea to have a list of all new uploads to >>cica. I do believe that the site is moderated and the service would >>not be too much effort, and I would benifit users greatly. > >>Paul > >Speak for yourself! :) > >If you are running Unix, you can create your own list of recent >uploads from the INDEX file. > >The following set of commands will give you the most recent ten >uploads to cica. (This doesn't include those files in the "uploads" >directory since we don't catalog them into the INDEX file until >they've been placed in the proper location.) > >grep -v \* INDEX | sed -e 's/\n//' | awk '{print $2, $1}' | sort -rn | head -10 > >Ugly, eh? > >I don't think posting this would be a benefit to anyone. Those with >ftp access normally get a copy of the INDEX on a daily basis anyway. > >-- > >michael regoli >mr@cica.indiana.edu >regoli@iubacs.BITNET >..rutgers!iuvax!cica!mr Now speak for YOURSELF! I don't mean to flame, but I have ftp access and I only check cica every week or so -- I don't have enough time or need to check daily. I don't think that UNIX command a)is particularly rememberable for everyone (OK, I could make it into a script, but I'm not sure how to do so.), and b)isn't useful if there have been more than 10 new downloads! If you, as the cica administrator (I believe you are, right?) believe that putting together an update index every time you make changes to the INDEX (simply listing the changes, perhaps) would be a pain in the butt, then say so. Personally, I feel that it would benefit a lot more people than you seem to think. Obviously, the decision is yours, but I think you are using faulty reasoning there. Adam Elman elmanad@leland.stanford.edu
riehm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Riehm) (05/02/91)
No-one has yet mentioned the file ls-ltR (or something like that) in the win3 directory. If I'm not mistaken, it has a listing of all files in reverse chronological order, so all you have to do is check the first few items... Carl Riehm.
burhans@mizar.usc.edu (Mustang Sally) (05/02/91)
In article <7255@rex.cs.tulane.edu> keating@rex.cs.tulane.edu (John Keating) writes: >brian@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Brian Hoffman) writes: > >Perhaps, instead of a separate file, Michael (remember, folks, he keeps cica >moving out of the foodness of his heart) could, when adding new titles to I'd like to take this opportunity to publically thank Michael for the "foodness of his heart" and for his recent help with a problem I was having. >the index, place a special character, (#, $, *, etc...) to each line with >that day's new upload. A quick, dirty program could probably be written to >remove the previous day's marks before he updates it. Would it be very difficult to include in the index a date that the file was uploaded OR a date of file creation or something? That would do it for me. Thanks. -- Jackie Burhans (burhans@usc.edu) Data Stylist, USC Student Affairs
regoli@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli) (05/02/91)
dalbrich@oregon.uoregon.edu writes: >I've noticed the INDEX file on cica lacks dates on files. Wrong. New for the Spring 1991 season are file creation dates in all the index files. The date is in YYMMDD format for easy sorting. >>>I don't think posting this would be a benefit to anyone. Those with >>>ftp access normally get a copy of the INDEX on a daily basis anyway. >>> >>>mr@cica.indiana.edu >> >> Yeah right, those of us with ftp access get the INDEX file daily, and then >> have to hunt through the whole damn thing just to get the >> descriptions of the recent stuff. >> -brian brian@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Brian Hoffman) Spoken like a true New Yorker(tm) :) Believe it or not, of the approximately 1,700 logins per day to cica, 99% are login sessions UNDER A MINUTE. I'm figuring this is due to the success of the "autoftp" or "batchftp" programs that are out there. These connections are probably snarfing the INDEX file and that's it. Hey, it's no big deal to create a "Top Ten" or "Top Twenty" or "Top Whatever" list of the most recent uploads that can reside in the win3 subdirectory. POSTING this file on a regular basis is another. >>grep -v \* INDEX | sed -e 's/\n//' | awk '{print $2, $1}' | sort -rn | head -10 >>I don't think that UNIX command a)is particularly rememberable for >>everyone (OK, I could make it into a script, but I'm not sure how to >>do so.), and b)isn't useful if there have been more than 10 new >>downloads! >> Adam Elman (elmanad@leland.stanford.edu) True, it's not particuarly easy to remember, but just cut out the one line, place it in a file, and "chmod u+x filename". That's all you need to do. Just type the filename to execute the command. (Note the "head -10" command extracts the first ten lines. To see them all, omit that last command.) Anyhow, posting this file has several implications. Main among them is the size of my mailbox. Placing a file list like this opens up E-Mail Hell. No offense, but UUCP and BITNET sites will go crazy contacting me (or the anonymous posting service) trying to get ahold of these files. Second, I don't want comp.windows.ms to become cannabalized into comp.windows.ms.cica. Third, I'm still "stinging" from the discussion in comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d about the merits of regular advertisements from quasi-successful ftp sites (see point two). -- michael regoli regoli@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu regoli@iubacs.BITNET
s902114@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Zen [Stuart Bishop]=) (05/03/91)
elmanad@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes: :-)In article <1991Apr30.162306.3744@cica.indiana.edu> mr@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli) writes: :-)>In <1991Apr27.005127.15710@agate.berkeley.edu> :-)>magid@sandstorm.Berkeley.EDU (Paul Magid) writes: :-)> :-)>If you are running Unix, you can create your own list of recent :-)>uploads from the INDEX file. :-)> :-)>The following set of commands will give you the most recent ten :-)>uploads to cica. (This doesn't include those files in the "uploads" :-)>directory since we don't catalog them into the INDEX file until :-)>they've been placed in the proper location.) :-)> :-)>grep -v \* INDEX | sed -e 's/\n//' | awk '{print $2, $1}' | sort -rn | head -10 :-)> :-)>Ugly, eh? :-)> :-)>I don't think posting this would be a benefit to anyone. Those with :-)>ftp access normally get a copy of the INDEX on a daily basis anyway. :-)> :-)Now speak for YOURSELF! :-)I don't mean to flame, but I have ftp access and I only check cica :-)every week or so -- I don't have enough time or need to check daily. :-)I don't think that UNIX command a)is particularly rememberable for :-)everyone (OK, I could make it into a script, but I'm not sure how to :-)do so.), and b)isn't useful if there have been more than 10 new :-)downloads! :-)If you, as the cica administrator (I believe you are, right?) believe :-)that putting together an update index every time you make changes to :-)the INDEX (simply listing the changes, perhaps) would be a pain in the :-)butt, then say so. Personally, I feel that it would benefit a lot :-)more people than you seem to think. Here here! A lot people who use this newsgroup are actually WINDOWS users rather than UNIX users. Echoing again: If it can be done easily, would you please do it. If not, fine. Don't. We still love you for making this service available to us. :-) -- _____ Two elephants fell off a cliff. Boom Boom. // // __ // // / \ I\ I for a good time call // // (-- I \I alias s902114@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au // // \__/ I I Stuart Bishop or zen@phoenix.pub.uu.oz.au // ((___________________________________________________________________// -- _____ Two elephants fell off a cliff. Boom Boom. // // __ //
sph0301@UTSPH.SPH.UTH.TMC.EDU (Kate Wilson) (05/08/91)
>>If you are running Unix, you can create your own list of recent >>uploads from the INDEX file. But what about those of us using VMS or anything else other than Unix? >>I don't think posting this would be a benefit to anyone. Those with >>ftp access normally get a copy of the INDEX on a daily basis anyway. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm lucky to have time to get the INDEX on a weekly basis, much less daily!