alan@pluto.dss.com (Alan Warwick) (05/07/91)
Does anyone know of a windows 3.0 Runtime ? I am developing a windows application and want to allow users who do not have windows to be able to run it. I vaguely remember that Microsoft Excel once came with a windows runtime. Thanks in advance, Alan Warwick alan@doc.dss.com -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Alan Warwick Datability Software Systems | | alan@doc.dss.com New York City | +-------------HELP !!! My PC has crashed and I can't boot up------------------+
dalbrich@oregon.uoregon.edu (05/08/91)
To my knowledge Microsoft no longer offers the ability to create
a Windows run-time application. At one time, when Windows was less
known, Microsoft provided Windows programmers the ability (leagally)
to include certain Windows kernel files which would allow thier program
to run as a stand alone. Excel, Pagemaker, and several others existed.
The run-time programs were in no way supported by Microsoft, and were
extremely limited (except of course, application MS wrote).
i.e. no DDE, clipboard or other information sharing with
other Windows applications.
The point is that Windows is meant to be its own operating environment.
Windows has more qualities of a traditional operating system than DOS.
I don't think Microsoft sees Windows as a "program" that people run like
the dosshell in order to run other programs. It is a complete operating
environment. If it is affordable and has a well installed base, why allow
striping it down to run stand alones?
If a run-time agreement was available, it would most likely be very limited.
I believe that MS would only allow for real-mode-only applications.
Allowing a run-time would have to be a compromise. I doubt they would
want to encourage it, and would be likely to place this limitation
on run-times because giving run-times too much "Windows" ability would be
in a sense giving the heart of Windows away for free. Windows is one of
few programs running on DOS which allow for easy access to extended memory.
Are there any seriously useful applications that run in
640K in Windows?
These are just some ideas to consider.
-Dan
PS: In response to Pagemaker "scam"
It is questionable why somone would slam on Windows in a news group
for Windows people. I am familiar with the Sun OS, but not everyone
can afford a Sun.
elmanad@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) (05/08/91)
To my understanding, Microsoft stopped allowing companies to bundle runtime Windows versions when they introduced Windows 3.0. PageMaker, Excel, and a few other programs used to come with runtime versions of Windows 2.xx, but now require Windows 3. Adam Elman elmanad@leland.stanford.edu
09381@tanus.oz.au (Shane Pascoe) (05/13/91)
I beleive you can make a runtime of 3.0 but Microsoft will not licence you
such to provide with you application. You can buy from them a Windows Demo
which you application can be added to and used only as a DEMO COPY.
You best bet is to contact Microsoft.
Shane Pascoe
Sydney Windows Users Group
Sydney Australia
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