bhs@siemens.UUCP (02/04/85)
By the way: if more people could suppress their bias towards japanese cars, they would venture up to their local Volkswagen dealers and check out the new Golfs and Jettas. They are both entirely redesigned, offering more room, better handling smoother ride, etc. The Golf is made in the US of A, and is identical to it's german namesake. The Jetta, which looks very sharp, is made in Germany. In comparison to almost all japanese cars, VWs have freely revving engines (with fuel injection, by the way), and have struck an admirable balance between handling and ride. Another plus: while a lot of japanese car dealers seem to be magnanamous by only charging a few percent above list, VW dealers charge below list. A friend of mine just purchased a Golf with almost all options except automatic and air, and pays $8900. Do not forget that the Golf is probably going to be around for a few years, instead of being replaced by a new japanese can two three years. Bernard H. Schwab Siemens RTL Princeton, NJ 08540
yosh@hou2e.UUCP (M.CHING) (02/05/85)
<> > By the way: if more people could suppress their bias towards japanese cars, > they would venture up to their local Volkswagen dealers and check out the new > Golfs and Jettas.... Buy a Volkswagen and regardless of the model, you wind up driving a precision German engineered tin can with all the comfort and plush of a cinder-block. Dave Bloom Bell Labs, Holmdel "Volkswagen.... the next best thing to ALCOA"
dmmartindale@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Martindale) (02/07/85)
In article <438@hou2e.UUCP> yosh@hou2e.UUCP (M.CHING) writes: > >Buy a Volkswagen and regardless of the model, you wind up driving >a precision German engineered tin can with all the comfort and plush >of a cinder-block. > > Dave Bloom > Bell Labs, Holmdel Hey, that sounds great compared to American cars!
alien@gcc-bill.ARPA (Alien Wells) (02/07/85)
>> By the way: if more people could suppress their bias towards japanese cars, >> they would venture up to their local Volkswagen dealers and check out the new >> Golfs and Jettas.... And don't fall for the trap of thinking of the Golf as a new model of car. When I lived in W. Germany (1975-6) they were making Golfs, it is just the name they use for the Rabbit in Germany (they have a smaller version called the 'Polo'). The change from Rabbit to Golf is no more significant than the change from Datsun to Nissan (except Nissan thought they had more of a quality image to lose from Datsun than VW had to lose from the Rabbit). If you insist on thinking of the Golf as a totally redesigned, new model of car, then you should overcome your bias toward german cars and venture up to your local Honda dealers and check out the new Civics, Accords, and Preludes. Thier redesign was much more major, and they don't feel they have to change the name because the last version was so bad. Alien
chu@lasspvax.UUCP (Clare Chu) (02/10/85)
In article <> bhs@siemens.UUCP writes: > >By the way: if more people could suppress their bias towards japanese cars, >they would venture up to their local Volkswagen dealers and check out the new >Golfs and Jettas. >Another plus: while a lot of japanese car dealers seem to be magnanamous by >only charging a few percent above list, VW dealers charge below list. A friend >of mine just purchased a Golf with almost all options except automatic and air, >and pays $8900. Do not forget that the Golf is probably going to be around for >a few years, instead of being replaced by a new japanese can two three years. > > > Bernard H. Schwab > Siemens RTL > Princeton, NJ 08540 Ever wonder why VW dealers charge below list price??? Besides the Golf is about as American as the Honda Accords, anyway :-) .....Also, I think VW advertises that their list price for the Golf is $6990. Clare Chu Cornell University Ithaca, N.Y.
haapanen@watdcsu.UUCP (Tom Haapanen [DCS]) (02/13/85)
In article <438@hou2e.UUCP> yosh@hou2e.UUCP (Dave Bloom) writes: >> By the way: if more people could suppress their bias towards japanese cars, >> they would venture up to their local Volkswagen dealers and check out the new >> Golfs and Jettas.... >Buy a Volkswagen and regardless of the model, you wind up driving >a precision German engineered tin can with all the comfort and plush >of a cinder-block. I think this belongs in net.flame, not in net.auto. I see that Dave has not driven VWs or Audis lately since the Beetle days, and has a rather low opinion of small cars. The Golf/Jetta is a very solidly built tin-can, and the comfort if very good. The suspension is firm (in German tradition), and the seats may not be ultra-plush, but they are ergonomically designed and constructed of a durable fabric. If you have specific complaints, please post them, but general mud-slinging such as your posting is uncalled-for. \tom haapanen watmath!watdcsu!haapanen
haapanen@watdcsu.UUCP (Tom Haapanen [DCS]) (02/13/85)
In article <233@gcc-bill.ARPA> alien@gcc-bill.UUCP (Alien Wells) writes: >> By the way: if more people could suppress their bias towards japanese cars, >> they would venture up to their local Volkswagen dealers and check out the new >> Golfs and Jettas.... >And don't fall for the trap of thinking of the Golf as a new model of car. Bullsh*t. See below. >When I lived in W. Germany (1975-6) they were making Golfs, it is just the name >they use for the Rabbit in Germany (they have a smaller version called the >'Polo'). The change from Rabbit to Golf is no more significant than the change >from Datsun to Nissan (except Nissan thought they had more of a quality image >to lose from Datsun than VW had to lose from the Rabbit). In Europe, there indeed has been a Golf since 1975. The Golf was the European version of the Rabbit. However, I have to break to you the fact that the new Golf is not the same car as the one sold in Europe from 1975 to 1983. In fact, the German automobile press has been referring to the new Golf as 'Golf II'. The only reason the name changed here was to give VWoA a change of image, from a silly name to a more European name. The Golf has (as compared to the Rabbit or the old European Golf) a brand new chassis, totally new sheetmetal, new interior, a better engine, different wheels and tires --- it just sort of looks the same. They changed everything that should have been changed, not the other things --- basic styling, door handles, fuel injection system... >If you insist on thinking of the Golf as a totally redesigned, new model of >car, then you should overcome your bias toward german cars and venture up to >your local Honda dealers and check out the new Civics, Accords, and Preludes. >Thier redesign was much more major, and they don't feel they have to change >the name because the last version was so bad. Oh. What's more major than redesigning a car from ground up? Hmmm... Please read at least one article on the new Golf before you condemn it as last year's model with a new name. \tom haapanen watmath!watdcsu!haapanen
mab@hou4a.UUCP (Michael Brochstein) (02/14/85)
>And don't fall for the trap of thinking of the Golf as a new model of car. >When I lived in W. Germany (1975-6) they were making Golfs, it is just the name >they use for the Rabbit in Germany (they have a smaller version called the >'Polo'). The change from Rabbit to Golf is no more significant than the change >from Datsun to Nissan (except Nissan thought they had more of a quality image >to lose from Datsun than VW had to lose from the Rabbit). Sorry to burst your bubble but you are wrong. Yes the Rabbit was called the Golf in Europe (Rabbit in US) ever since it was introduced. When VW re-designed the Golf/Rabbit VW decided (for marketing reasons) that it would be better if the Golf name was used world-wide and the Rabbit name retired. The Golf we have now in the US *IS* a redesigned car and not just a nameplate switch. The visual similarity between the Rabbit and the new Golf is large but they are indeed quite different. For reference check out the car magazines. -- Michael Brochstein AT&T Information Systems, Holmdel, NJ ihnp4!hou4a!mab (201) 834-3482
smith@wlcrjs.UUCP (Mark L. Smith) (02/22/85)
Do you get wheels for $6990, or maybe a cardboard interior? {(-:}
A Hare owner