[comp.windows.ms] w4w ... possible to print a text border?

leoh@hardy.hdw.csd.harris.com (Leo Hinds) (05/30/91)

Is there some way to extend the header/footer "concept" to include text 
running along the left & right sides of the page ... basically a text border?

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gg2@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Guy Gallo) (05/30/91)

In article <3525@travis.csd.harris.com> leoh@hardy.hdw.csd.harris.com (Leo Hinds) writes:
>
>Is there some way to extend the header/footer "concept" to include text 
>running along the left & right sides of the page ... basically a text border?
>
>leoh@hdw.csd.harris.com         	Leo Hinds       	(305)973-5229
>Gfx ... gfx ... :-) whfg orpnhfr V "ebg"grq zl fvtangher svyr lbh guvax V nz n
>creireg ?!!!!!!? ... znlor arkg gvzr

Leo,

You are asking about lines.  It would be the same thing (different border style)
as what's described on page 21 of the User Reference as the procedure for
adding a border around an entire page....

I think this will do what you want.

leoh@hardy.hdw.csd.harris.com (Leo Hinds) (05/31/91)

In article <1991May30.063638.8720@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> gg2@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Guy Gallo) writes:
>In article <3525@travis.csd.harris.com> leoh@hardy.hdw.csd.harris.com (Leo Hinds) writes:
>>Is there some way to extend the header/footer "concept" to include text 
>>running along the left & right sides of the page ... basically a text border?

>You are asking about lines.  It would be the same thing (different border style)
not really ... no lines needed/wanted ... just text

>as what's described on page 21 of the User Reference as the procedure for
>adding a border around an entire page....

I tried this proceedure but the result was not the box as advertized ... 
probably cockpit error ... I'll have to try again when I get more time ...


leoh@hdw.csd.harris.com         	Leo Hinds       	(305)973-5229
Gfx ... gfx ... :-) whfg orpnhfr V "ebg"grq zl fvtangher svyr lbh guvax V nz n
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gg2@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Guy Gallo) (05/31/91)

Leo,
I didn't understand that you wanted vertical text along the left edge.  This
is possible if you use a {print } field  *IF*  you are using either a 
PostScript or a PCL5 (LaserJet IIIx) printer.

If you are using either of these printers, take a look at a macro I wrote 
called GPSMRK.ZIP (for the PostScript) or GLJMRK.ZIP (for the PCL5) printer.
These macros print DRAFT or COPY diagonally across the page in 140pt type, in
grey.  They could be adapted to print a phrase vertically at the left edge of
the page.

leoh@hardy.hdw.csd.harris.com (Leo Hinds) (06/01/91)

In article <1991May31.062638.30773@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> gg2@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Guy Gallo) writes:
>I didn't understand that you wanted vertical text along the left edge.  This
>is possible if you use a {print } field  *IF*  you are using either a 
>PostScript or a PCL5 (LaserJet IIIx) printer.

Unfortunately the target printer is a dot matrix one ... I can test it with a 
PS printer here at work, but my wife is the one who wants to do this on an 
IBM proprinter ... :-(


leoh@hdw.csd.harris.com         	Leo Hinds       	(305)973-5229
Gfx ... gfx ... :-) whfg orpnhfr V "ebg"grq zl fvtangher svyr lbh guvax V nz n
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gg2@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Guy Gallo) (06/01/91)

On a dot matrix I think (for the time being) you are out of luck if what
you need is to print text perpendicular to the orientation (unless you
print in two runs).

drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston) (06/03/91)

In article <1991Jun1.083225.3591@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> gg2@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Guy Gallo) writes:
>On a dot matrix I think (for the time being) you are out of luck if what
>you need is to print text perpendicular to the orientation (unless you
>print in two runs).

This was true until a few weeks ago when Adobe Type Align for Windows
was released.  Using ATA (which requires ATM), you can create an 
arbitrary path for your Type 1 font to follow. You can do some
really weird stuff with skew and curves, and you can print text
perpendicular to the orientation.  I don't think you can put W4W
fields on it, but I haven't tried (I've only had it about a day
and a half).  Various shades of grey can be printed.


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tim@int13.hf.intel.com (Timothy E. Forsyth) (06/03/91)

drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston) writes:
>In article <1991Jun1.083225.3591@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> gg2@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Guy Gallo) writes:
>>On a dot matrix I think (for the time being) you are out of luck if what
>>you need is to print text perpendicular to the orientation (unless you
>>print in two runs).
>This was true until a few weeks ago when Adobe Type Align for Windows
>was released.  Using ATA (which requires ATM), you can create an 
>arbitrary path for your Type 1 font to follow. You can do some
>really weird stuff with skew and curves, and you can print text
>perpendicular to the orientation.  I don't think you can put W4W
>fields on it, but I haven't tried (I've only had it about a day
>and a half).  Various shades of grey can be printed.

But you will only be able to paste the results of TypeAlign into WinWord as
a picture, then scale, clip, and position on the WinWord page.  It would work
but not as easy as you want.  And it will not be editable in WinWord.  Also
note, the Windows MetaFile output from TypeAlign does not work correctly, it
only gives you the outlines of the characters, not the fills.  I have made
two calls to Adobe and have yet to get a call back, time to call in a day or
two and make then get their act together.  So...if you want to use TypeAlign
output in WinWord documents, you must either copy/paste into the document or
save as an EPS file (if you have a postscript printer).

I will admit that I am making use of the WMF bug to create some letters that
will be printed on colored paper and then cut on the lines for putting on a
bulletin board.  Even when the get the WMF output fixed I'll still keep
TypeAlign 2.0 (what happened to 1.0?) around for that ability.

Tim Forsyth

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