[net.auto] Big Block Horsepower and Emissions limits

prophet@umcp-cs.UUCP (Dennis Gibbs) (02/25/85)

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>  It's great to hear from some Chevy fans after hearing all of this foreign
>car crap.  I have a Corvette with a tri-power 427 and I've really done a
>few numbers on Porsche and BMW drivers.
>  I obviously favor the big block, but not just for ultimate HP potential.
>It can be built to be streetable and yet be a screamer when you stand on it.
>
>Rei Shinozuka
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>>Do these big block engines meet current emissions limits?  What kind of gas
>>mileage does your 427 get?  I am fond of the engines you speak of, too, but
>>you have to keep in mind that the Porsches and BMW's meet the latest emissions
>>specs.

>>Of course, if you are refering to modified Porsches and BMW's, my statement is
>>not valid...The point is, let's be sure your comparing engines that have to
>>meet the same requirements (if any) regarding emissions and gas mileage.

 >>                           Dennis


>Are you for real Dennis?  Gee, I feel just terrible when I think of all the
>Porsches, 280Zs, BMWs, and other put-put cars I've blown away with my
>427 Corvette, and I DIDN'T MEET EMISSION STANDARDS!!  Oh my God!  Not only
>that, but I wasn't even getting good gas mileage!! (as those cars were becoming
>specs in my rear view mirror).  Sure glad there are guys around to remind
>me that performance is the least important measure of a car.
>

The point I was trying to make is that if I bought a 280Z, (300ZX now), or a
Porsche or BMW, and I took all the emission control garbage off of it, or
perhaps add a turbocharger or nitrous oxide injection, you could probably end
up with a car that could accelerate just as fast as your 427 corvette.  Your
comparison between your 427 and the emission control-strangled new 280Z's and
BMW's and Porsches is an unfair one because whenever an engine is designed
to meet emissions standards, something must be compromised, and that something
is usually POWER.  Your 427 does not have these constraints.  If you had to
make your 427 corvette meet emission standards and gas mileage standards, your
427 wouldn't be any faster than today's Porshes, BMW's, etc.

                               Dennis

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hkr4627@acf4.UUCP (Hedley K. J. Rainnie) (02/26/85)

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	Conversely, if you bought a Porsche for the price of a 427, it wouldn't
go too fast, either.

	Just to set things stright, a 427 is a four hundred twenty seven
cubic inch engine, or seven liters even.  All else being equal, the 427
is going to put out, just on the basis of its size.  In addition, the Chevy
Rat has among to most sophisticated heads on any American V-8, the famous
canted-valve open chamber heads.  Check out a 427 (or 396, 402, 454 etc)
with its valve covers off.  Those pushrods are splayed for exactly one reason:
FLOW!

	You know, there's something people don't mention a lot about cars
like the old Vette: solidity.  Every control in the car feels solid, really
solid, and most require an incredible effort to operate.  All in keeping with
the mystique, I guess.

    Rei Shinozuka
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