[comp.windows.ms] formulas in W4W

eaton@eecs.ucdavis.edu (William Eaton) (06/08/91)

Does anyone have experience doing formula typesetting in W4W? I've
looked through the User's Reference and found the formula 'fields' to
be very limited. A lot of the characters that were available on Word
for the
Mac (specialized characters that don't seem to be included in any
fonts, such as rarrow, dagger, etc. etc) don't seem to be available in
W4W. 

I am aware that typesetting programs exist, but they are not very
handy when it comes to editing the formula AFTER it has been imported.
(i.e. you have to export it, then edit in the program, then
re-import). Anyone have any suggestions?


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cpm5479@sigma.tamu.edu (Christopher Menzel) (06/08/91)

In article <9130@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, eaton@eecs.ucdavis.edu (William Eaton) writes...
=>Does anyone have experience doing formula typesetting in W4W? I've
=>looked through the User's Reference and found the formula 'fields' to
=>be very limited. A lot of the characters that were available on Word
=>for the
=>Mac (specialized characters that don't seem to be included in any
=>fonts, such as rarrow, dagger, etc. etc) don't seem to be available in
=>W4W. 

The Mac does come with a bunch of special characters that you can
get just by hitting the option key, though they are of fairly
limited use for math formulas unless you format them with the Symbol
font, which I think comes with Mac and so sort of seems built in.
However, most all of these characters are found in the Symbol font
that comes with Adobe Type Manager, Bitstream Face Lift, etc.  With
the exception of a square box (which you can hack pretty well using
the box command for generating, e.g., matrices in W4W and Word for
the Mac), I've found most of what I need in Symbol--especially in 
light of the fact that you can scale symbols with ATM, BFL, and 
their fellows.

Chris

hallvard@immhp3.marina.unit.no (Hallvard Paulsen) (06/08/91)

In article <9130@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, eaton@eecs.ucdavis.edu (William Eaton) writes:
|> Does anyone have experience doing formula typesetting in W4W? I've
|> looked through the User's Reference and found the formula 'fields' to
|> be very limited. A lot of the characters that were available on Word
|> for the
|> Mac (specialized characters that don't seem to be included in any
|> fonts, such as rarrow, dagger, etc. etc) don't seem to be available in
|> W4W. 
|> 
|> I am aware that typesetting programs exist, but they are not very
|> handy when it comes to editing the formula AFTER it has been imported.
|> (i.e. you have to export it, then edit in the program, then
|> re-import). Anyone have any suggestions?
|> 

	This is what I've found out too! W4W is NOT suitable if you want
to write any formulas more advanced than F=m*a. :-( That is why I'm awaiting
WP4W with impatience. It is posible to get Greek characters though. At least
that is what I get when using the "symbol" font. There is also a document
included in my c:\winword directory that gives Greek letters by clicking 
with the mouse. (But as far as I remember I can't get these when I'm
using the formula writer :-(  )

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