[comp.windows.ms] *Help* Multitask DOS in windows

slbst18@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Stephanie L Bearse) (06/09/91)

Hi:

I really need some information regarding how to use dos sessions in
windows3 and be able to multitask as well as run DOS programs in the back
ground. I have 386sx machine with 4 MB of RAM.  

I tried using wordperfect 5.1 and ran it in a dos window and found that
I couldnt use the mouse nor could I use any graphics within wordperfct
to view as it would say other high resolution graphics are on and I couldn't
use it.  

When I ran it in full screen from windows using a .pif file, I
found it the same as when 
running the program in the non-windows mode.  Am I able to run wp5.1 in the
back ground in a dos window full screen and be able to multitask?   

Also I have a communication program called smarterm 240 and when I ran this
in windows it would insert the greek chracter phi all over the place in 
between text.  Is there a way I can get rid of this.

Last of all is there any good written documentation anywhere or any
expert out there who knows how to run DOS in full windows (in full screen) and sized up
windows?  I would greatly appreciate if someone could give me advice 
on this and the way I should set up the memory when running DOS applications.

Thanks again in advance.


Stephanie

mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Doug McDonald) (06/09/91)

In article <137528@unix.cis.pitt.edu> slbst18@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Stephanie L Bearse) writes:
>Hi:
>
>I really need some information regarding how to use dos sessions in
>windows3 and be able to multitask as well as run DOS programs in the back
>ground. I have 386sx machine with 4 MB of RAM.  
>
>I tried using wordperfect 5.1 and ran it in a dos window and found that
>I couldnt use the mouse


The only known way to use a mouse with a DOS program IN A WINDOW in
386 mode is to have - gag- two mice. The mouse on  COM1 runs Windows
and the one on COM2 runs your program.


Doug McDonald

jb@altair.csustan.edu (John Birchfield) (06/10/91)

In article <1991Jun9.153805.18620@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Doug McDonald) writes:
>
>In article <137528@unix.cis.pitt.edu> slbst18@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Stephanie L Bearse) writes:
>>Hi:
>>
>>I really need some information regarding how to use dos sessions in
>>windows3 and be able to multitask as well as run DOS programs in the back
>>ground. I have 386sx machine with 4 MB of RAM.  
>>
>>I tried using wordperfect 5.1 and ran it in a dos window and found that
>>I couldnt use the mouse
>
>
>The only known way to use a mouse with a DOS program IN A WINDOW in
>386 mode is to have - gag- two mice. The mouse on  COM1 runs Windows
>and the one on COM2 runs your program.
>
>
>Doug McDonald

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt.  Wrong - In 386 Enhanced mode you simply have to run
the mouse driver program mouse.com or whatever before you bring up
your application - I bring up a dos full screen session and bounce back
and forth to windows etc using <Alt><ESC> <Alt><TAB> <Alt>Enter etc.
If I decide to run a dos program that needs the mouse I simply run
mouse.com



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cchapman@msd.gatech.edu (Chuck H. Chapman) (06/10/91)

In <1991Jun10.021124.19430@koko.csustan.edu> jb@altair.csustan.edu (John Birchfield) writes:

>In article <1991Jun9.153805.18620@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Doug McDonald) writes:
>>
>>In article <137528@unix.cis.pitt.edu> slbst18@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Stephanie L Bearse) writes:
>>>
>>>I really need some information regarding how to use dos sessions in
>>>windows3 and be able to multitask as well as run DOS programs in the back
>>>ground. I have 386sx machine with 4 MB of RAM.  
>>>
>>>I tried using wordperfect 5.1 and ran it in a dos window and found that
>>>I couldnt use the mouse
>>
>>
>>The only known way to use a mouse with a DOS program IN A WINDOW in
>>386 mode is to have - gag- two mice. The mouse on  COM1 runs Windows
>>and the one on COM2 runs your program.

>Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt.  Wrong - In 386 Enhanced mode you simply have to run
>the mouse driver program mouse.com or whatever before you bring up
>your application - I bring up a dos full screen session and bounce back
>and forth to windows etc using <Alt><ESC> <Alt><TAB> <Alt>Enter etc.
>If I decide to run a dos program that needs the mouse I simply run
>mouse.com

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt.  Sorry, you are wrong.  There is no way for a DOS
program to use a mouse in a *window* except perhaps using the two mouse
method described above.

DOS programs such as WordPerfect can use the mouse in full screen mode
if the mouse driver is loaded before you start Windows.  WordPerfect is
a little strange because you must start it in full screen mode for it to
be able to detect a mouse.  If you start it in a window, it will never
use the mouse, even if you switch back to full screen mode.

Chuck







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jb@altair.csustan.edu (John Birchfield) (06/11/91)

In article <cchapman.676564616@msd> cchapman@msd.gatech.edu (Chuck H. Chapman) writes:
>In <1991Jun10.021124.19430@koko.csustan.edu> jb@altair.csustan.edu (John Birchfield) writes:
>
>>In article <1991Jun9.153805.18620@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Doug McDonald) writes:
>>>
>>>In article <137528@unix.cis.pitt.edu> slbst18@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Stephanie L Bearse) writes:
>>>>
>>>>I really need some information regarding how to use dos sessions in
>>>>windows3 and be able to multitask as well as run DOS programs in the back
>>>>ground. I have 386sx machine with 4 MB of RAM.  
>>>>
>>>>I tried using wordperfect 5.1 and ran it in a dos window and found that
>>>>I couldnt use the mouse
>>>
>>>
>>>The only known way to use a mouse with a DOS program IN A WINDOW in
>>>386 mode is to have - gag- two mice. The mouse on  COM1 runs Windows
>>>and the one on COM2 runs your program.
>
>>Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt.  Wrong - In 386 Enhanced mode you simply have to run
>>the mouse driver program mouse.com or whatever before you bring up
>>your application - I bring up a dos full screen session and bounce back
>>and forth to windows etc using <Alt><ESC> <Alt><TAB> <Alt>Enter etc.
>>If I decide to run a dos program that needs the mouse I simply run
>>mouse.com
>
>Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt.  Sorry, you are wrong.  There is no way for a DOS
>program to use a mouse in a *window* except perhaps using the two mouse
>method described above.
>
>DOS programs such as WordPerfect can use the mouse in full screen mode
>if the mouse driver is loaded before you start Windows.  WordPerfect is
>a little strange because you must start it in full screen mode for it to
>be able to detect a mouse.  If you start it in a window, it will never
>use the mouse, even if you switch back to full screen mode.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Charles H. Chapman  (GTRI/MATD)             (404) 528-7588
>Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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>* Home of the 1990 National Champion Ga. Tech Yellow Jackets *
>**************************************************************
>uucp:     ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!msd!cchapman
>Internet: cchapman@msd.gatech.edu

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Egg On My Face - I use full screen Dos sessions
and then run the application I'm interested in.  I think my method would 
work with wp, however.
jb.

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