[comp.windows.ms] Logitech & Windows : HELP !

pujol@sally.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre Pujol) (06/17/91)

I'm using a Logitech mouse, and Windows 3 on a 386
SVC (Sillicon Valley Computer) 25 Mhz.

Every time I move my mouse while Windows is working
(opening a window, drawing a picture,...) I lose my
cursor (amd my mouse).

The only solution I found is to run a mouse-user soft
(like PcShell) from Windows, and then to come back to
Windows. Tedious !!

HELP ME !!!!!!!

Jean-Pierre
pujol@mirsa.inria.fr

dara-khani@orl.mmc.com (dara khani) (06/18/91)

In article <11817@mirsa.inria.fr>, pujol@sally.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre Pujol) writes:
|>
|> I'm using a Logitech mouse, and Windows 3 on a 386
|> SVC (Sillicon Valley Computer) 25 Mhz.
|>
|> Every time I move my mouse while Windows is working
|> (opening a window, drawing a picture,...) I lose my
|> cursor (amd my mouse).


 Try the following:

1 - Use the newest Logitech driver 5.01 (you can get it from SIMTEL,
    if not drop me a line and I'll email it to you).
2 - click on the 386 icon in windows and choose the COM port that the  
    mouse uses and set the option to Never Warn, then press the OK button.


 Best of luck.



                          DaRa

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stevens@shiva.trl.OZ.AU (Tony Stevens) (06/18/91)

I also am using a Logitech Mouse on a Wang 386 Computer with Windows V3.

I find that the mouse only partly works on Lotus 1-2-3 V3.  It will not
work at all with Xtree Gold V2 (or the previous version) either.

I have loaded the mouse driver in either config.sys or autoexec.bat - it
doesn't matter which.

Windows 3 is happy with the mouse, as is all windows products.  It is
only DOS windows (full screen) that are in trouble.

I managed to fix Xtree by re-loading the mouse driver via a batch file
before running Xtree in a DOS vitual window - full screen mode.

Lotus does not work the same way though.

As a matter of interest my home machine - a clone 386 with windows 3 and
a True Mouse and the same config.sys and autoexec.bat works correctly on
Xtree and Lotus.

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rosen@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (steven.b.rosen) (06/18/91)

In article <11817@mirsa.inria.fr>, pujol@sally.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre Pujol) writes:
> Every time I move my mouse while Windows is working
> (opening a window, drawing a picture,...) I lose my
> cursor (amd my mouse).
> 
> Jean-Pierre
> pujol@mirsa.inria.fr

Jean-Pierre,

	Me too. Kinda. My mouse pointer will vanish if I move it while
	windows is booting. My system is a clone 386-25 with a Z-NIX 
	mouse in COM1. Anyone got the cure (or a good reason why this
	happens?).

	...steve...

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                      srosen@attmail.com
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pujol@anne.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre Pujol) (06/18/91)

In article <11817@mirsa.inria.fr>, pujol@sally.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre Pujol) writes:
> 
> I'm using a Logitech mouse, and Windows 3 on a 386
> SVC (Sillicon Valley Computer) 25 Mhz.
> 
> Every time I move my mouse while Windows is working
> (opening a window, drawing a picture,...) I lose my
> cursor (amd my mouse).
> 
> The only solution I found is to run a mouse-user soft
> (like PcShell) from Windows, and then to come back to
> Windows. Tedious !!
> 
> HELP ME !!!!!!!
> 
> Jean-Pierre
> pujol@mirsa.inria.fr

My problems increased yesterday : not only I'm losing my
mouse every minut (as described before), but also I can't
anymore retrieve it by running PcShell. As a matter of fact
Windows send me an error message, as it cannot use the
mouse on COM1 port, if this port is consecrated to a non-
windows application (!). I'm surprised for it's the very
first time it acts as it does.

Is there any good people who's using both a LOGITECH and
WINDOWS with(out) problem(s) ??

JP
pujol@mirsa.inria.fr

Thanks in advance !

amf@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Andrew Fountain) (06/18/91)

In <11817@mirsa.inria.fr> pujol@sally.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre Pujol) writes:


>I'm using a Logitech mouse, and Windows 3 on a 386
>SVC (Sillicon Valley Computer) 25 Mhz.

>Every time I move my mouse while Windows is working
>(opening a window, drawing a picture,...) I lose my
>cursor (amd my mouse).

I had this happen. It turned out to be a bug in the hard disk bios. If
the mouse was used during HD activity, then the interripts were lost and
the system died. I swapped my HD controller and all was solved.
Alternatively, your problem could possibly be the mouse driver.
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rodrigol@ulrik.uio.no (Rodrigo Lopez) (06/18/91)

In article <11837@mirsa.inria.fr>, pujol@anne.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre
Pujol) writes:
> In article <11817@mirsa.inria.fr>, pujol@sally.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre
Pujol) writes:
> > 
> > I'm using a Logitech mouse, and Windows 3 on a 386
> > SVC (Sillicon Valley Computer) 25 Mhz.
> > 
> > Every time I move my mouse while Windows is working
> > (opening a window, drawing a picture,...) I lose my
> > cursor (amd my mouse).
> > 
> > The only solution I found is to run a mouse-user soft
> > (like PcShell) from Windows, and then to come back to
> > Windows. Tedious !!
> > 
> > HELP ME !!!!!!!
> > 
> > Jean-Pierre
> > pujol@mirsa.inria.fr
> 
> My problems increased yesterday : not only I'm losing my
> mouse every minut (as described before), but also I can't
> anymore retrieve it by running PcShell. As a matter of fact
> Windows send me an error message, as it cannot use the
> mouse on COM1 port, if this port is consecrated to a non-
> windows application (!). I'm surprised for it's the very
> first time it acts as it does.
> 
> Is there any good people who's using both a LOGITECH and
> WINDOWS with(out) problem(s) ??
> 
> JP
> pujol@mirsa.inria.fr
> 
> Thanks in advance !

There are three things you may try, though I cannot warrante any will
work:

1. Load the mouse driver from logitech FROM DOS. BEFORE you start
windows.
2. Add the following to your mouse.com or mouse.sys command line:

If you load the mouse driver using CONFIG.SYS

DEVICE=C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.SYS /M:2

If you are loading the mouse driver from autoexec.bat

c:\mouse\mouse.com /m:2

3. You can change the following setting in system.ini under the 386enh
section:

MouseSoftInit=false (the default is true)

davel@booboo.SanDiego.NCR.COM (David Lord) (06/18/91)

In article <1991Jun17.175213.14354@iplmail.orl.mmc.com> dara-khani@orl.mmc.com (dara khani) writes:
>In article <11817@mirsa.inria.fr>, pujol@sally.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre Pujol) writes:
>|>
>|> I'm using a Logitech mouse, and Windows 3 on a 386
>|> SVC (Sillicon Valley Computer) 25 Mhz.
>|>
>|> Every time I move my mouse while Windows is working
>|> (opening a window, drawing a picture,...) I lose my
>|> cursor (amd my mouse).
>
>
> Try the following:
>
>1 - Use the newest Logitech driver 5.01 (you can get it from SIMTEL,
>    if not drop me a line and I'll email it to you).
>2 - click on the 386 icon in windows and choose the COM port that the  
>    mouse uses and set the option to Never Warn, then press the OK button.

One other thing to try, boot without your TSR's. I finally had to set
up my autoexec.bat files to not start my TSR's when I was going to run
Windows. One of them (I forget which) caused Windows to mess up the screen
when I moved the mouse while the hourglass was up.

mavanamm@pb2esac.UUCP (Marnix van Ammers) (06/19/91)

In article <11837@mirsa.inria.fr> lemenec@mirsa.inria.fr writes:
>In article <11817@mirsa.inria.fr>, pujol@sally.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre Pujol) writes:
>> 
>> I'm using a Logitech mouse, and Windows 3 on a 386
>> SVC (Sillicon Valley Computer) 25 Mhz.
...
>Is there any good people who's using both a LOGITECH and
>WINDOWS with(out) problem(s) ??

I'm using a LOGITECH serial mouse (on serial port 2) with my
20Mhz DTK 386 clone with no problems.  I upgraded to DOS 5.0
a few days ago and so far the mouse is still working fine (even
though DOS 5.0 gave me a message about my mouse driver being
unsupported).  I load my mouse driver via my autoexec.bat .

When I first bought windows, I thought that the driver in windows
would handle my mouse.  I had many problems.  Since I started loading
the driver from my autoexec.bat I have had no problems.  Long ago
I also tried loading the driver via config.sys, but I had problems
(which may have been due to other problems that I had at the time),
so I haven't tried that again.

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Pacific Bell ESAC
415-645-5196

mgd@mcshh.hanse.de (Michael Gerdau) (06/19/91)

In <11817@mirsa.inria.fr> pujol@sally.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre Pujol) writes:

]I'm using a Logitech mouse, and Windows 3 on a 386
]SVC (Sillicon Valley Computer) 25 Mhz.

]Every time I move my mouse while Windows is working
](opening a window, drawing a picture,...) I lose my
]cursor (amd my mouse).

]The only solution I found is to run a mouse-user soft
](like PcShell) from Windows, and then to come back to
]Windows. Tedious !!

]HELP ME !!!!!!!

]Jean-Pierre
]pujol@mirsa.inria.fr

I'm sorry, but you have to be more specific.
Are you using a busmouse (which interrupt) or a serial one (which com-port) ?

I' using a busmouse (INT 5) on a 386 with Win 3 at 24 Mhz and it works fine.
(If I try INt 2-4 the mouse behaves wired).

Regards
Michael

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dly@zeus.calpoly.edu (Dixon Duong Ly) (06/20/91)

In article <1991Jun17.175213.14354@iplmail.orl.mmc.com> dara-khani@orl.mmc.com (dara khani) writes:
>
> Try the following:
>
>1 - Use the newest Logitech driver 5.01 (you can get it from SIMTEL,
>    if not drop me a line and I'll email it to you).
>2 - click on the 386 icon in windows and choose the COM port that the  
>    mouse uses and set the option to Never Warn, then press the OK button.

I used to have Logitech driver 5.01 on.  (I got it from cica).  But everytime
I started up WinQvt, the mouse cursor freezes.  Any idea on what the problem
might be?

I have a 386 20MHZ with EGA( Yes , I know I should switch to 1024 a long time
ago.  But I am still in college.  Ergo, I am still poor).  Anyhow, I have
4 megs of ram with a 2 meg swapfile.  I set smartdrive to 1024k and ramdrive
to 1500k.  

I go so mad I switched back to the old driver (version 4.10, I think).  

Drop me some mail if you have a suggestion.  Anything is welcome at this
sad moment.

Thank you

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royholl@aetech.cts.com (Roy Hollinger) (06/21/91)

In article <11817@mirsa.inria.fr> pujol@sally.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre Pujol) writes:
>
>I'm using a Logitech mouse, and Windows 3 on a 386
>SVC (Sillicon Valley Computer) 25 Mhz.
>
>Every time I move my mouse while Windows is working
>(opening a window, drawing a picture,...) I lose my
>cursor (amd my mouse).
>
>The only solution I found is to run a mouse-user soft
>(like PcShell) from Windows, and then to come back to
>Windows. Tedious !!
>
>HELP ME !!!!!!!
>
>Jean-Pierre
>pujol@mirsa.inria.fr

I'm running MS-DOS 3.3, Windows 3.0, and Logitech on a 486/33.
I use a serial mouse on COM1: and have never had any problems.
I currently load my \mouse\mouse.sys in thru config.sys because I
want to use it for DOS applications.

The only thing that I can think of is that your mouse may not be on what
Windows 3.0 uses for the default, COM1:  Maybe moving the mouse there
may help.

user2@cgevs3.cem.msu.edu (Stephen Medlin) (06/22/91)

In article <655@pb2esac.UUCP>, mavanamm@pb2esac.UUCP (Marnix van Ammers) writes:
>In article <11837@mirsa.inria.fr> lemenec@mirsa.inria.fr writes:
>>In article <11817@mirsa.inria.fr>, pujol@sally.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre Pujol) writes:
>>> 
>>> I'm using a Logitech mouse, and Windows 3 on a 386
>>> SVC (Sillicon Valley Computer) 25 Mhz.
>...
>>Is there any good people who's using both a LOGITECH and
>>WINDOWS with(out) problem(s) ??
>
>I'm using a LOGITECH serial mouse (on serial port 2) with my
>20Mhz DTK 386 clone with no problems.  I upgraded to DOS 5.0
>a few days ago and so far the mouse is still working fine (even
>though DOS 5.0 gave me a message about my mouse driver being
>unsupported).  I load my mouse driver via my autoexec.bat .
>
>When I first bought windows, I thought that the driver in windows
>would handle my mouse.  I had many problems.  Since I started loading
>the driver from my autoexec.bat I have had no problems.  Long ago
>I also tried loading the driver via config.sys, but I had problems
>(which may have been due to other problems that I had at the time),
>so I haven't tried that again.
>      >---
I am also using a LOGITECH serial mouse on a 286 (10 MHz, COM2, Dos 4.01)
machine with no problem.  I actually load the mouse driver from Config.sys,
too.  I am not sure why you would be having a problem.  Good luck.

Stephen

t02@clark.edu (Torry Schreiner) (06/23/91)

In article <11837@mirsa.inria.fr> lemenec@mirsa.inria.fr writes:
>In article <11817@mirsa.inria.fr>, pujol@sally.inria.fr (Jean-Pierre Pujol) writes:
>> 
>> I'm using a Logitech mouse, and Windows 3 on a 386
>> SVC (Sillicon Valley Computer) 25 Mhz.
>> 
>> Every time I move my mouse while Windows is working
>> (opening a window, drawing a picture,...) I lose my
>> cursor (amd my mouse).
>> 
>> The only solution I found is to run a mouse-user soft
>> (like PcShell) from Windows, and then to come back to
>> Windows. Tedious !!
>> 
>> HELP ME !!!!!!!
>> 
>> Jean-Pierre
>> pujol@mirsa.inria.fr
>
>My problems increased yesterday : not only I'm losing my
>mouse every minut (as described before), but also I can't
>anymore retrieve it by running PcShell. As a matter of fact
>Windows send me an error message, as it cannot use the
>mouse on COM1 port, if this port is consecrated to a non-
>windows application (!). I'm surprised for it's the very
>first time it acts as it does.
>
>Is there any good people who's using both a LOGITECH and
>WINDOWS with(out) problem(s) ??
>
>JP
>pujol@mirsa.inria.fr
>
>Thanks in advance !

I've been using my Logitech MouseMan and Windows 3.0 for over 6 months without
a hitch.  My mouse software came with a modified Windows 3.0 driver.  Maybe 
you have older software and Logitech fixed the problem later.