[comp.windows.ms] Looking for a program that will trigger LAN backup

ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) (06/23/91)

I've recently got a summer job with the local utility company.  Recently,
the LAN manager in my department has been asking me a lot of questions,
and upgraded my status levels due to the knowledge imparted.  (I'm a
Systems Analysis major in college).

They are beginning to install Windows on several pc's in the LAN.  Anyways,
before the manager leaves each day, he runs a batch file which copies
a different autoexec.bat and config.sys file to the current names,
and reboots his pc.  These new files monitor the time, and at 22:00 
(10 pm), they begin to backup the LAN server to a tape backup device.

He wants to know if there are any such programs that run in the Windows
environment that at a certain time can execute a certain task.  I don't
think this would be too hard to do for the Windows environment.  The
program could be icon-ized, and constantly checking the time.

If you know of any programs that would assist us, please post or
email.  It's a Novell LAN.  Thanks in advance.

Andrew
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chapman@acf3.NYU.EDU (Gary W. Chapman,WWH 318,212-998-3045,718-499-7815) (06/24/91)

>...These new files monitor the time, and at 22:00 
>(10 pm), they begin to backup the LAN server to a tape backup device.
>
>He wants to know if there are any such programs that run in the Windows
>environment that at a certain time can execute a certain task.

Sounds like an good first project for Visual Basic or Turbo Pascal
for Windows.  Why not take the opportunity to learn something about these
new tools?

- Gary Chapman, NYU  

ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) (06/24/91)

In article <29810003@acf3.NYU.EDU>, chapman@acf3.NYU.EDU (Gary W. Chapman,WWH 318,212-998-3045,718-499-7815) writes:
>>...These new files monitor the time, and at 22:00 
>>(10 pm), they begin to backup the LAN server to a tape backup device.
>>
>>He wants to know if there are any such programs that run in the Windows
>>environment that at a certain time can execute a certain task.
> 
> Sounds like an good first project for Visual Basic or Turbo Pascal
> for Windows.  Why not take the opportunity to learn something about these
> new tools?
> 
> - Gary Chapman, NYU  

Gary,

Well, I don't want to go that route.  They have no programming languages
for their pcs.  If I wanted to order Visual Basic or Turbo Pascal, they
wouldn't get it until September due to massive amounts of red tape.
Anybody need any?

Still looking for solutions.  Someone our there has to do something
similiar.

Andrew
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briang@deadzone.uucp (Brian Greenberg) (06/24/91)

In article <5486.2864dbee@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) writes:
>...These new files monitor the time, and at 22:00 
>(10 pm), they begin to backup the LAN server to a tape backup device.
>
>He wants to know if there are any such programs that run in the Windows
>environment that at a certain time can execute a certain task.
>
>Still looking for solutions.  Someone our there has to do something
>similiar.
>
>Andrew
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>    Andrew Bennett   ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu  [@miavx1.bitnet]
>    Oxford, Ohio     ab55sanu@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu   [@miamiu.bitnet]

Well, why not take the batch file you're already using, run it in a DOS
window, and then iconize it (thereby making it memory resident).  You can get
Windows to boot with certain programs running (in windows or as icons) from
within the system.ini file (I believe - if not, then there's another file that
does it, but I know it can be done).

Hope that helps...
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ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) (06/24/91)

In article <1991Jun24.045708.9239@deadzone.uucp>, briang@deadzone.uucp (Brian Greenberg) writes:
> In article <5486.2864dbee@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) writes:
>>...These new files monitor the time, and at 22:00 
>>(10 pm), they begin to backup the LAN server to a tape backup device.
>>
>>He wants to know if there are any such programs that run in the Windows
>>environment that at a certain time can execute a certain task.
>>
>>Still looking for solutions.  Someone our there has to do something
>>similiar.
>>
>>Andrew
> 
> Well, why not take the batch file you're already using, run it in a DOS
> window, and then iconize it (thereby making it memory resident).  You can get
> Windows to boot with certain programs running (in windows or as icons) from
> within the system.ini file (I believe - if not, then there's another file that
> does it, but I know it can be done).
> 
> Hope that helps...

The current batch file they use copies two different autoexec.bat and
config.sys files over the current one, then reboots.  I assume that
they use some other drivers that would necessitate the need to reboot.
Obviously, under Windows, I don't want to do this (rebooting).

Andrew
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jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell) (06/25/91)

In article <5484.2863f130@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) writes:
>
[looking for a UNIX-like "at" utility that runs under Win3]

Take a look in the /util directory at cica. There is a PS/ShareWare (I 
forget which) package called at110.zip or something like that.

It does just what you are looking for.

If you can't find it, drop me a line; I'll e-mail it to you.

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mccashin@salal.chspr.ubc.ca (Brian McCashin) (06/26/91)

In article <5484.2863f130@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) writes:
>They are beginning to install Windows on several pc's in the LAN.  Anyways,
>before the manager leaves each day, he runs a batch file which copies
>a different autoexec.bat and config.sys file to the current names,
>and reboots his pc.  These new files monitor the time, and at 22:00 
>(10 pm), they begin to backup the LAN server to a tape backup device.
>
>He wants to know if there are any such programs that run in the Windows
>environment that at a certain time can execute a certain task. 

Active Life from the 1Soft Corporation will run any Windows or DOS application
at a preset time (weekly,daily etc..) Its also a great application for
prioritizing tasks. The big question is will your backup software run under
windows. I've seen cases where the software can't even detect the tape hardware
in Enhanced mode.

Brian McCashin                            Internet: mccashin@unixg.ubc.ca
Senior Programmer/Analyst                 Bitnet: Brian_McCashin@UBCMTSG
Centre For Health Services and Policy Research
University of British Columbia, Vancouver CANADA

kumarr@hparc0.HP.COM (Kumar Rangan) (06/26/91)

> [...] know if there are any such programs that run in the Windows
> environment that at a certain time can execute a certain task.  I don't

> If you know of any programs that would assist us, please post or
> Andrew
----------

I *know* the NewWave software from HP has a task automation facility
called the Agent, where u can schedule different tasks for periodic intervals.

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mjohnsto@slhsu.shearson.com (Mike Johnston) (06/27/91)

In article <2770028@hparc0.HP.COM> kumarr@hparc0.HP.COM (Kumar Rangan) writes:

   > [...] know if there are any such programs that run in the Windows
   > environment that at a certain time can execute a certain task.  I don't

   > If you know of any programs that would assist us, please post or
   > Andrew

You can also try to use "Active Life" which has such a feature. Active Life
is Shareware time management software. By adding an entry AUTOEXEC "command"
to a specific date and time you can accomplish the auto-run feature. It's
nice because it appears on your regular schedule so you'll see when it's 
supposed to be run. Then, after it is completed, it gets checked off.

You can download Active Life from most any BBS. I got mine from GEnie.


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