[net.auto] I saved 4000$ on the car I wanted.

joe@zinfandel.UUCP (03/14/85)

	I saved between 2,000$ and 4,000$ on my new car depending
on how you interpret this:
									
	Oct.1 '84	I decide I want the new IROC Camaro and visit
			dealer # 1. Sticker with about the right options
			~= 17,000$. Dealer adds 2000.00. This is a much
			sought-after car after all.

	Oct.3 '84							
			I visit a second dealer who informally agrees to
			give me the car ( order for the exact one ) for
			the sticker. I get the codes for all the options
			I want and ensure that I can get them.
			price ~17,000.00$ 
									
	Jan.5 '85	I read "The Insider's Guide to Buying Your Next
			Car" by Remar Sutton. I find that Chevy Dealers
			get ~12% profit on the base car and ~17% on all
			options at sticker. I find that dealers usually
			will accept real profits of 250$ to 350$ on a
			sale if they can't get more.
			Real cost ~15,000$ + 350.00 ~= 15,350$

	Feb.1 '85
			I get credit approval from the credit union for
			15,500.00$.

	Mar. 5 '85							
			I visit a Car Purchasing service, find the true
			dealer cost of the car and my options to the
			penny. 14,691.28 including transport and
			advertising. plus ~200$ profit they will order
			me the car. = 14,900.00 $
			I will give no more than 100.00 $ deposit, and
			they accept. The actual order will be pre-
			confirmed by phone when they find a dealer to
			work through.
									
	Mar. 6 '85     I visit dealer #2 with the offer on paper of the
			broker.  He verifies the true costs from his book,
			except he shows me the broker figured the transport
			cost into the base price of the car AND added it
			later.  He also shows me I can't get an electric
			antenna without an AM-FM radio. He throws that in
			and I offer 300 $ profit. He will accept 450 $.
			I stop check for the Broker deposit ( 100.00$ )
			and inform him that I no longer want his service.
			I give the dealer 100.00$ deposit.
			True dealer cost = 14,296.98. including Radio.
			My price: 14,750.00$

	Mar. 7 '85	I find that I could iterate this process at the
			first dealer that had the ridiculous price at the
			beginning, with the latest deal, and perhaps
			whittle the profit from 450.00 to 350.00 or less
			if I wanted to stop the latest dealer's check and
			cancel my order with him. I decided against this
			as he had dealt with me in good faith.

	Read that book. It's got all the tricks and it helps you with
	trade-ins too. Let me know if this helps you.

	" Cogito ergo Spud. "  ( I Think, therefore A Yam. )

Joseph Weinstein	Zehntel Inc.	(ihnp4!zehntel!zinfandel!joe)
			P.O. Box 8016
(415)932-6900		Walnut Creek California 94596