jeff@oblio.UUCP (Jeff Buchanan) (03/12/85)
> .....You could buy an '84 > Corvette for say, $24,000, buy a ZL-1 aluminum motor for it for > another $10,000 (including all mods to yield 800+ HP non turbo > charged, blown, or injected), drop the motor in the Vette, and > you would have a car that would blow away those "high price spread" > cars. >>There are stupid comments and then there are stupid comments. Jeff, you >>sound like one of those guys I race a Baylands Raceway each weekend. You >>think you can put mega horse power in a stock car and turn nines! Drop >>a ZL-1 into an '84 vette and if the transmission doesn't the blow up, >>the frame (or lack of) will be twisted like a pretzel. >>I much prefer big-block to any 4-banger, but please discuss it coherently. >>I build and drive ten second cars and it takes alot more than horsepower >>to do it. Shelby Thornton Relational Technology Hey, calm down. Who ever said anything about 9's? Not me. Transmission blowing up? Twisted frame? You sure read a lot more into my letter than what was there. The comment I made about the ZL-1 Vette was only one small part of a much broader topic. I had no intention of elaborating on how much effort is required to make such a swap. What I said is true in principal, and you should not have jumped to the conclusion that I think no further modifications would be necessary to race such a car. In fact, I said nothing about racing at all! >>When I say torque, I mean usable torque. Rat motors don,t know >>what that is. I've watched my 440's destroy any and all 427s and >>454s that they've run across. I know I don't have the horsepower >>of some of these motors, but my mid-range torque destroyed them. Is that right? Well I've got a 427 that will rearrange your doors which I drive to work everyday. Send me mail and we will arrange a time and place to get it on. We'll put the money in escrow, and if the price is right I`ll drive up to Berkley from San Jose. I don't think for a milli- second you seriously think your slow-par can beat even a mediocre running rat, so I'm sure you won't respond to this challenge. As far as your weird ideas about torque and how it relates to racing, just keep on thinking that horsepower is meaningless. Torque is meaningful ONLY if the RPM is specified. Guess what torque at a particular RPM is.... That's right - horsepower! (try taking a physics course, Shelby. You would be amazed at how wonderful it is when you understand what you are talking about.) Jeff
jackh@zehntel.UUCP (jack hagerty) (03/15/85)
> >>When I say torque, I mean usable torque. Rat motors don,t know > >>what that is. I've watched my 440's destroy any and all 427s and > >>454s that they've run across. I know I don't have the horsepower > >>of some of these motors, but my mid-range torque destroyed them. > > Is that right? Well I've got a 427 that will rearrange your doors > which I drive to work everyday. Send me mail and we will arrange a time > and place to get it on. We'll put the money in escrow, and if the price is > right I`ll drive up to Berkley from San Jose. I don't think for a milli- > second you seriously think your slow-par can beat even a mediocre running > rat, so I'm sure you won't respond to this challenge. > Why don't you guys pick some neutral territory halfway between, say Fremont Raceway on grudge night. I'd love to come and watch. -- Jack Hagerty, Zehntel Automation Systems ...!ihnp4!zehntel!jackh
shelby@rtech.ARPA (Shelby Thornton) (03/25/85)
> Is that right? Well I've got a 427 that will rearrange your doors > which I drive to work everyday. Send me mail and we will arrange a time > and place to get it on. We'll put the money in escrow, and if the price is > right I`ll drive up to Berkley from San Jose. I don't think for a milli- > second you seriously think your slow-par can beat even a mediocre running > rat, so I'm sure you won't respond to this challenge. > Our last street 440 car is in many pieces, as would be expected during winter. When it is finally back together, hopefully in about a two months, we would love to race your 427. You'll have to meet us at Baylands Raceway in Fremont and be ready to put up a minimum of three digits (with the 1st number >= 2). To give you an idea of what you've gotten yourself into, this car is NOT a street car anymore. The only thing factory orignal is the sheet- metal. It's a full cage, full frame drag car with '68 GTX sheetmetal. The rear suspension is ladder-bar, with 5.13 gears and 14-32 wrinkle- wall slicks. We plan to run it in Pro Gas competition which is a 9.90 index. I'll let you know when it's ready and I'll give you your chance to "rearrange my doors". > As far as your weird ideas about torque and how it relates to racing, > just keep on thinking that horsepower is meaningless. Torque is > meaningful ONLY if the RPM is specified. Guess what torque at a > particular RPM is.... That's right - horsepower! (try taking a physics > course, Shelby. You would be amazed at how wonderful it is when you > understand what you are talking about.) I guess we'll let the race decide who knows what they're talking about, Good luck. Shelby P.S. When we race, we'll probably have the old street motor in to dial in the chassis. When the car was in street trim last year, the car only turned low 11's.