shoulson@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Mark E. Shoulson) (07/11/90)
Archive-name: planned-languages/10-Jul-90 Original-posting-by: shoulson@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Mark E. Shoulson) Original-subject: re: esperanto ftp's. Archive-site: langserv@ivory.cc.columbia.edu Reposted-by: emv@math.lsa.umich.edu (Edward Vielmetti) One place you might consider looking (here comes the plug) is on the planned languages file server, which i and jerry altzman manage. We don't have a great deal of Esperanto stuff, which is another reason i'm posting this: Come on, you Esperantists, send in some material! For instructions on how to use the server, send mail which reads "help" to langserv@ivory.cc.columbia.edu. For submissions, questions, comments, etc., write to archive-management@ivory.cc.columbia.edu. Just plugging my little project... ~mark o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o N2KOT Mark E. Shoulson: shoulson@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu shoulson@cunixc.bitnet
urban%monty@RAND.ORG (Michael Urban) (07/11/90)
Archive-name: rand-esperanto/10-Jul-90 Original-posting-by: urban%monty@RAND.ORG (Michael Urban) Original-subject: Re: Esperanto ftp's. Archive-site: rand.org [192.5.14.33] Archive-directory: /pub/esperanto Reposted-by: emv@math.lsa.umich.edu (Edward Vielmetti) > *Excerpts from mail: 10-Jul-90 Esperanto ftp's. Mad Max@decwrl.dec.com (728)* > I don't know Esperanto yet, but want to learn. Does anyone know of any ftp > sites (that allow anonymous logon) that have Esperanto related material? Well, yes: RAND.ORG has a directory `pub/esperanto' in the anonymous FTP directory. At present, it contains only Lesson One of the Postal Course, and a directory containing a machine-readable list of words from Plena Ilustrita Vortaro. I am happy to put anything else there on request. Mark Shoulson's Planned Languages Server is another such resource. Both of us feel that we could be carrying more stuff, if there is enough demand. Should I put my HyperCard-based course there, for example? Shawn Oesterle has been preparing the other lessons from the Postal Course in machine-readable form, and I would be happy to have the complete set online in some form (Shawn, you might consider using some markup language, from which a nice PostScript version could be made). As Hossein Rafsanjani has pointed out, it would be *wonderful* if we had human `graders' or `tutors' available to support the electronic Postal Course (as Cathy Shulze has done for years with the paper version), but I suspect that few, if any, listanoj or grupanoj would be willing to commit to handling that support...I would be glad to hear that I am wrong about that. > Specifically, ZIP.EECS.UMICH.EDU was listed as having an Esperanto sentence > analyzer, but it turns out to be a misprint (anyone know where the REAL > ftp site is?). I have a copy of the analysis tools online [I suppose I could put them in the RAND FTP directory, if they have vanished from UMICH?]. The package was apparently written by one Asle Balsvik of the University of Tromsoe, Norway. Its history is otherwise a mystery to me. I have not played with it much; it seems to me that Neal McBurnett concocted a similar thing some years back. A discussion of the network resources available specifically for training English speakers in Esperanto, and the demand (if any) for those resources, has probably been overdue. Mike