archive@adesign.uucp (Archive Site Administrator) (07/29/90)
Archive-name: gna-alt-sources/15-Jul-90 Original-posting-by: archive@adesign.uucp (Archive Site Administrator) Original-subject: Re: Anonymous FTP list - who archives alt.sources? (We do !) Archive-site: gna.uucp Reposted-by: emv@math.lsa.umich.edu (Edward Vielmetti) In article <18978@well.sf.ca.us> Jef Poskanzer <jef@well.sf.ca.us> writes: > So basically, there is no archive of alt.sources in North America, and > there may or may not be one anywhere. We archive alt.sources here. It is not very clean, nor very complete. Not very clean because, as everybody pointed out, there is not a consistent policy for package naming in alt.sources. Not very complete because we are in France and that we have some difficulties to receive *all* the articles in a given newsgroup (alt.sources or comp.lang.c ...). Furthermore, we don't spend time to sort the redundant postings or version evolution. If a name is already taken, we differenciate by appending a number (!). For instance you will find unzip.Z, unzip.old.Z, unzip2.Z and unzipbsd.Z. And you have no way to find out what are there differences. This is far from ideal. But our goal is not to spend hours to order this directory. We just expect to find what was posted on alt.sources. Here is the the system entry for the archive site followed by the content alt.sources archive directory. The oldest article saved is about 1,5 year old, I think. Access : gna Any ACU 1200 FRANCE140351567 "" \r gin--gin nuucp Description : ~/News (Beware, it is in french. However, it contains the important paths). No, there is no FTP entry. We are not that rich :-) ./alt: total 2111 6 ecat.Z 18 phone.Z 7 20-to-unix.Z 2 ecu/ 7 pscalendar.Z 1 AAL/ 4 edbh.pl.Z 7 purge.Z 15 Directory 1 emacs-8bit/ 13 qt.Z 13 JCrypt 27 face2ps.Z 4 qtime.Z 26 Msets 17 fastsort.Z 8 rap.Z 1 PBMPLUS/ 24 fcclipper.Z 17 rb.Z 1 QRT1.5/ 7 flockxenix.Z 47 rnhack.patch.Z 108 QRTSRC15.TAR.Z 12 gameoflife.Z 9 sendmail.perl 13 TU78.Z 1 gcc-gas-xenix/ 1 shadow2/ 1 XBBS/ 12 getoptx.Z 1 shar3.24/ 1 acs/ 47 getty.Z 46 shar311.Z 1 ads/ 9 gnus-find.Z 77 shar311.patch0 5 alloca386.Z 33 hd.Z 5 shar321.patch0 5 amatch.Z 5 id.Z 33 shell_mung.c.Z 18 arbitron.pl.Z 17 initclone.Z 5 signchang.Z 14 archive.Z 10 inpath.Z 1 simped/ 22 autobounce.Z 5 inpath2.Z 31 slave-uucico.Z 22 biff.Z 1 kef/ 34 spew.Z 1 browse-tcl/ 8 loadsv.Z 18 squig.Z 14 browse.Z 22 lock.Z 1 stdio/ 4 browse.patch.Z 1 ls.out.Z 15 strings.Z 40 browse2.Z 1 mandel/ 22 sun-mouse.Z 22 btoa-tarmail.Z 5 mapstats.Z 19 sunrpc.Z 7 calendar.Z 1 memacs/ 1 tcl/ 4 callscript.Z 10 memchat.Z 1 teleplay/ 1 card/ 1 menu/ 30 teleplay.Z 23 cgrind.Z 30 mines.Z 1 terminfo/ 1 chat/ 3 mm2me.awk.Z 6 time.Z 27 checkpoint.Z 6 mortgage.Z 9 timestamp.Z 12 checkvirus.Z 3 ms2me.awk.Z 101 treeD 16 chksys.Z 28 multicast.Z 50 uemacs.Z 5 chmod.Z 20 mx.Z 1 uncmp/ 5 clock.Z 12 nap.Z 28 unzip.Z 10 cockney.Z 15 ndbm.Z 30 unzip.old.Z 4 conv.Z 44 newline.Z 36 unzip2.Z 4 conv2.Z 1 obfuscated/ 40 unzipbsd.Z 44 cookies.Z 14 ofile.Z 23 uutraf.Z 42 cookies1.Z 3 old-browse-p.Z 39 uzap.Z 1 crisp/ 62 parsearg.Z 1 xcomm/ 7 cryptext.Z 12 parsearg.patch 36 xfax.Z 8 date.Z 7 paternmatch.Z 12 xxencode.Z 1 dawgutils/ 1 pckterm/ 45 yow.Z 31 debug-amiga.Z 1 perl/ 3 ypmatch.Z 10 des-test.Z 10 perlqinstall.Z ./alt/AAL: total 80 8 part02.Z 7 part04.Z 10 part06.Z 18 part08.Z 2 part01.Z 3 part03.Z 9 part05.Z 23 part07.Z ./alt/PBMPLUS: total 653 35 part04.Z 42 part08.Z 37 part12.Z 36 part16.Z 38 part01.Z 41 part05.Z 36 part09.Z 37 part13.Z 40 part17.Z 38 part02.Z 34 part06.Z 42 part10.Z 36 part14.Z 20 part18.Z 37 part03.Z 24 part07.Z 41 part11.Z 39 part15.Z ./alt/QRT1.5: total 402 39 input.Z 136 source.Z 161 documentation 66 qrt2gif.Z ./alt/XBBS: total 1115 87 part02.Z 90 part05.Z 89 part08.Z 89 part11.Z 1 README 87 part03.Z 90 part06.Z 89 part09.Z 87 part12.Z 88 part01.Z 84 part04.Z 88 part07.Z 89 part10.Z 57 part13.Z ./alt/acs: total 258 7 part00.Z 91 part01.Z 91 part02.Z 69 part03.Z ./alt/ads: total 85 30 part01.Z 28 part02.Z 27 part03.Z ./alt/browse-tcl: total 58 1 doc/ 45 part01.Z 1 alpha/ 8 newmacros.Z 3 patch1.Z ./alt/browse-tcl/alpha: total 70 53 part01.Z 17 part02.Z ./alt/browse-tcl/doc: total 96 55 part01.Z 41 part02.Z ./alt/card: total 104 53 part01.Z 51 part02.Z ./alt/chat: total 256 47 part02.Z 44 part04.Z 33 part06.Z 49 part01.Z 45 part03.Z 38 part05.Z ./alt/crisp: total 225 44 part01.Z 37 part16.Z 44 part26.Z 12 missing.Z 39 part15.Z 45 part24.Z 4 resume.Z ./alt/dawgutils: total 14 14 update1.shar.Z ./alt/ecu: total 1337 27 part13.Z 28 part26.Z 28 part39.Z 31 part01.Z 27 part14.Z 29 part27.Z 28 part40.Z 27 part02.Z 27 part15.Z 25 part28.Z 30 part41.Z 28 part03.Z 26 part16.Z 32 part29.Z 29 part42.Z 27 part04.Z 23 part17.Z 28 part30.Z 29 part43.Z 27 part05.Z 24 part18.Z 26 part31.Z 28 part44.Z 25 part06.Z 25 part19.Z 29 part32.Z 26 part45.Z 27 part07.Z 28 part20.Z 29 part33.Z 28 part46.Z 27 part08.Z 27 part21.Z 30 part34.Z 6 part47.Z 24 part09.Z 24 part22.Z 30 part35.Z 21 part48.Z 27 part10.Z 29 part23.Z 32 part36.Z 21 patch01.Z 27 part11.Z 29 part24.Z 29 part37.Z 8 patch02.Z 26 part12.Z 27 part25.Z 29 part38.Z 13 patch03.Z ./alt/emacs-8bit: total 406 41 part03.Z 32 part06.Z 30 part09.Z 31 part12.Z 43 part01.Z 26 part04.Z 32 part07.Z 24 part10.Z 41 part02.Z 40 part05.Z 33 part08.Z 33 part11.Z ./alt/gcc-gas-xenix: total 91 52 part01.Z 39 part02.Z ./alt/kef: total 60 4 README 56 part01.Z ./alt/mandel: total 161 107 README 54 part02.Z ./alt/memacs: total 172 36 memacs.2.Z 34 memacs.4.Z 23 memacs.6.Z 6 memacs.1.Z 39 memacs.3.Z 34 memacs.5.Z ./alt/menu: total 402 35 part03.Z 37 part06.Z 36 part09.Z 39 part01.Z 34 part04.Z 35 part07.Z 41 part10.Z 40 part02.Z 38 part05.Z 34 part08.Z 33 part11.Z ./alt/obfuscated: total 77 77 1990.Z ./alt/pckterm: total 601 106 part01.Z 104 part03.Z 108 part05.Z 10 README 101 part02.Z 103 part04.Z 69 part06.Z ./alt/perl: total 176 39 patch02.Z 49 patch04.Z 35 patch01.Z 50 patch03.Z 3 patch05.Z ./alt/shadow2: total 115 3 part00.Z 48 part01.Z 42 part02.Z 22 part03.Z ./alt/shar3.24: total 67 49 part01.Z 18 part02.Z ./alt/simped: total 61 35 part01.Z 26 part02.Z ./alt/stdio: total 141 65 part01.Z 39 part02.Z 37 part03.Z ./alt/tcl: total 25 25 streams.Z ./alt/teleplay: total 40 23 part01.Z 17 part02.Z ./alt/terminfo: total 210 45 part02.Z 45 part04.Z 51 part01.Z 43 part03.Z 26 part05.Z ./alt/uncmp: total 65 49 part01.Z 16 part02.Z ./alt/xcomm: total 170 34 part1.Z 55 part2.Z 81 part3.Z
karl@ficc.ferranti.com (Karl Lehenbauer) (07/31/90)
Archive-name: alt-sources-archives/30-Jul-90 Original-posting-by: karl@ficc.ferranti.com (Karl Lehenbauer) Original-subject: Re: Anonymous FTP list - who archives alt.sources? (We do !) Archive-site: sugar.hackercorp.com Reposted-by: emv@math.lsa.umich.edu (Edward Vielmetti) We have been archiving alt.sources, comp.sources.d, comp.sources.bugs, the PC, Amiga, Mac and ST sources and binaries and the rest of the usual groups at sugar.hackercorp.com since around February of this year. (The sugar archives include autogenerated index files containing filenames and article subjects, thanks to a modified version of arcnews used there) ficc.ferranti.com has alt.sources back to December '89, but these files have been sifted, named and moved about while the sugar ones used the archive-name header if it was present or used the date-received plus process ID of arcnews for uniqueness. Which is preferable is a matter of opinion. (The sugar archives are complete for the time period they cover -- even BIFF's C0WABUNGA posting is in there -- at least for now) Trouble is neither site is directly on the Internet, nor can they particularly support mailserver access, etc. (The archives are available to callers of the Sugar Land Unix BBS at 713-438-5018) I would be interested in forwarding a tape or arranging some other kind of one-shot vacuum cleaner operation to an Internet site willing to host an alt.sources archive where they would be grabbing future postings on their own. Email if you're qualified and interested. -- -- uunet!ficc!karl "I am here by the will of the people and I won't leave uunet!sugar!karl until I get my raincoat back." -- Metrophage