[comp.archives] Welcome to comp.archives, monthly posting

emv@ox.com (Edward Vielmetti) (12/22/90)

Archive-name: comp.archives/administrivia/welcome/1990-12-21
Archive-directory: cs.toronto.edu:/comp.archives/ [128.100.1.65]

[Note: I will be on vacation until about 1 January 1991.  No doubt I
will miss something between now and then that should go into
comp.archives.  If you see something good mail it to me (with all the
headers intact, please).  Until then, happy new year!  --Ed.]

comp.archives is a newsgroup which reprints announcements of software,
archive sites, and other resources which are available via anonymous
FTP on the Internet.  The usual way for someone to announce something
new on the net is to post a description to the newsgroup for which it
is most relevant.  These release notes usually contain all of the
information which would be relevant to someone familiar with the field
to figure out whether they would like to retrieve it and where to get
it from.  comp.archives tries to locate these from out of the rest of
the discussion and collect them all together.

Back issues of comp.archives are kept in the following places:

Archive-directory: cs.toronto.edu:/comp.archives/
Archive-directory: wuarchive.wustl.edu:/usenet/comp.archives/
Archive-directory: (somewhere at orst.edu, under construction)			  

In Europe, look at

Archive-directory: freja.diku.dk:/pub/comp.archives/

This is a copy of the collection at cs.toronto.edu.  Since Europe's
wet-piece-of-string internet connection is about as bad as Canada's, I
urge caution in just randomly grabbing the whole collection from
either site, cause it's pretty big.

Thanks go to Mark Moraes <moraes@cs.toronto.edu>, Chris Myers
<chris@wugate.wustl.edu>, Carl-Lykke Pedersen <carllp@diku.dk>, and
Kim H|glund <shotokan@diku.dk> for their work.  Mark Moraes keeps the
reference collection at Toronto; contact him, and let me know, if you
are planning to put up an archive.  Figure on about 300-400K of
compressed data per month plus whatever the size of the index you want
to keep.

There are at least two other resources that you should know about if
you are interested in comp.archives.  First is the anonymous FTP site
list which is kept by Jon Granrose (odin@pilot.njin.net) which is
available as

Archive: pilot.njin.net:/pub/ftp-list/ftp.list

and which is posted monthly to comp.misc, comp.sources.wanted, and
(usually) to comp.archives.  At 140K, this list (or the unformatted
version which is "sites" in the same directory) is suitable for
grepping.

The other must-have tool in finding some long-lost random piece of
software is the "archie" server which runs on quiche.cs.mcgill.ca.
Login as "archie" and follow the instructions.  This innovative
project has two parts.  One maps out the internet by grabbing full
recursive directory listings of about 400 different sites at a rate of
20 per day; these directory listings can be retrieved in

Archive-directory: quiche.cs.mcgill.ca:/archie/listings/

Then there's some code that puts this all into a database and presents
a simple user interface to search through it.  It's still very much in
a beta stage, but I've grown to depend on it to answer simple "now
where was that neuroprose archive" questions.  You can also access
this server by mail; send mail to "archie@cs.mcgill.edu" with the text
"help" to get information, or send (e.g.) "prog neuroprose".  The
thing you are sending is a regular expression, so you might want to
use "prog [nN]euro[pP]rose" if you weren't sure.

There is another FTP site directory collection on vmd.cso.uiuc.edu, cd
to "phil.513", get "afindex.tarz".  This is a giant (25M) compressed
tar file.  If you are on a slow link don't get it, it'll be out of
date before the transfer ends :-(.  

There are probably other good sources of information on what is out
there, in various catalogs and such.  I'll be trying to pull together
periodic postings about topical collections, but it's slow work.  If
you have something which you thing should be part of this list, let me
know, I'll try to make room for it.

Note the address change (effective 1 Dec 1990) to "emv@ox.com" instead
of "emv@math.lsa.umich.edu".  

--Ed
Edward Vielmetti
MSEN
moderator, comp.archives
emv@ox.com (or) archives@ox.com