[comp.archives] [mac-announce] mac.ftp.list, march '91

231b3679@fergvax.unl.edu (_mike gleason) (03/06/91)

Archive-name: ftp/database/mac-ftp-list/1991-03-04
Original-posting-by: 231b3679@fergvax.unl.edu (_mike gleason)
Original-subject: mac.ftp.list, march '91
Reposted-by: emv@ox.com (Edward Vielmetti)

Here's volume 1, #2 (March 1991) of the mac.ftp.list.  There have been
numerous additions and bug fixes since the premiere release.  I'm especially
sorry about all those errors.  Most of them were due to file transfer
errors when I uploaded to my account.
 
I plan on posting revised editions as needed to comp.sys.mac.announce about
every month or so. I'll probably post the list the first of the month along
with the two other monthly posts, Frequently Asked Questions and About
Macintosh Newsgroups. New material is denoted by two asterisks, **.
 
Please send newly discovered sites (with IP numbers and directories to
check if possible), bug fixes, and comments to:
 
    231b3679@fergvax.unl.edu (Mike Gleason)
 
My address changes periodically, since the administration would rather be
inefficient and assign new accounts to the same students every semester.
Hopefully, this bit of public service will convince them to give me a
permanent account with a name instead of a number ;-)
 
In case you're wondering, I did mail odin@pilot.njin.net and ask him to
just add the sites I had, but he hasn't gotten around to it yet.  Besides,
grepping the ftp.list for 'mac' won't produce what I've come up with.
 
For folks new to ftp
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The first column of stuff in the data below is the site name.  Usually
you can just run ftp and type open and then the site name.  But some
computers don't like the names (or don't have all of them) and prefer the
next column of stuff, the IP addresses.  If you try the open command with the
IP number and it doesn't bite, it isn't gonna work.  Most mac ftp sites have
encoded their files with BinHex 4.0.  These files will end in the suffix
'.hqx'. To decode these files, you can just download them to your mac, and
use Compact Pro or Stuffit to decode them.  THEN, you will need to decompress
them. Files ending in '.cpt' are Compact Pro files, '.sit' files are
Stuffit's. You will probably need both Compact Pro and Stuffit since both
types are common.  When it prompts you for a username and password, send
"anonymous" as the username, and your email address as the password, for me
it would be 231b3679@fergvax.unl.edu.
Here's a sample ftp session:
 
% ftp
ftp> open sumex-aim.stanford.edu
Connected to sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
220 sumex-aim FTP server (SunOS 4.0/3) ready.
Name (sumex-aim.stanford.edu:231b3679): anonymous
Password (sumex-aim.stanford.edu:anonymous): 231b3679@fergvax.unl.edu
331 Guest login ok, send mail address (user@host) as password.
230 Guest connection 17 (of 25) accepted, access restrictions apply.
ftp> cd info-mac
ftp> get ./help/recent-files.txt recentFiles
ftp> get ./game/cumulonimbus-110.hqx cn.hqx
ftp> quit
% sz cn.hqx
 
Power User Notes:
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Most files you'll get off ftp are in that pain in the butt format, binhex.
I usually download to our unix box, and then use an immensely useful utility
called "mcvert" to de-binhex them there.  Not only is this faster, but it
doesn't tie up your own CPU :-)  Stop over to sumex and grab it.  After
mcvert'ing files, they'll turn into files with ".bin" suffix on them, meaning
they are in MacBinary format, and ready to download.  If you think you
know what you are doing, you could also unstuff the files on your unix box
and download the unstuffed files from there, but then you'd need "unsit"
and "macbin", also available from sumex.

Here's a handy chart to keep track which archivers unmangle which formats:
                      .sit  .sit                         unix
                .cpt   1.5   dlx  .hqx  .zip  .dd  .lzh  .Z  .pit  .arc  .bin
Compact Pro       X     X           X
Stuffit 1.5.1           X           X                          X
Stuffit Classic         X      X    X
Stuffit Deluxe          X      X          X     X              X     X     X
Disk Doubler            X                       X
DDExpand                X                       X
Packit                                                         X
MacCompress                                               X
MacLHarc                                             X
ArcMac                                                               X
BinHex 4.0                          X
BinHex 5.0                                                                 X
UnZip                                     X


Opinion: If you distribute files to others, keep in mind these guidlines:
  a. Everyone I know loathes Stuffit formats that are not 1.5.1 compatible.
     (i.e. Stuffit Classic's and Deluxe's Molasses mode, er, "Best" mode)
  b. Don't use Self-Extracting Archives (.sea's).  They make file sizes
     larger, and make it easier for virus transmission, since they have to
     be applications.
  c. Stuffit 1.5.1's format can be read on many machines besides Macs, 
     like MS-DOS, Unix, and Amiga.
  d. Stuffit 1.5.1's format can be read by many other archivers besides
     Stuffit.
  e. Stuffit 1.5.1 format and Compact Pro format archives are
     accepted by almost all FTP site maintainers.
 
You may also notice I've included C Style brackets.  That's in case some
sed wizard can whip up a script to just extract all the data out of this
file, and not copy all this introductory crappola.
 
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These sites have many mac files, and are still getting new ones:
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irisa.irisa.fr **          131.254.2.3     /News/comp.binaries.mac         (A)
ix1.cc.utexas.edu          128.83.1.21     /microlib/mac                   (B)
nic.funet.fi               128.214.6.100   /pub/mac                        (C)
rascal.ics.utexas.edu      128.83.138.20   /mac                            (D)
sumex-aim.stanford.edu     36.44.0.6       /info-mac                       (E)
ub-mts.cc.umich.edu        35.1.1.47       PC2:                            (F)
wsmr-simtel20.army.mil     26.2.0.74       PD3:<macintosh> ?               (G)
ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz **       130.216.1.5     /mac                            (Q)
 
These sites have a lot of files, but do not get much new:
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apple.com                  130.43.2.2      /pub/dts                        (H)
doc.cso.uiuc.edu           128.174.33.105  /mac/MUG  /pc+mac/mac/eudora    (I)
ftp.apple.com              130.43.2.3      /nerdtools :-(                  (J)
giza.cis.ohio-state.edu ** 128.146.8.61    /pub/mac, /pub/oztex
mars.ee.msstate.edu        130.18.64.3     /files                          (K)
mcsun.eu.net               192.16.202.1    /comp/mac
plains.nodak.edu           134.129.111.64  /pub/mac/pub                    (L)
vega.hut.fi                130.233.200.42  /pub/mac
 
 
These sites are shadows archives (the same stuff) of something else:
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dftnic.gsfc.nasa.gov       128.183.10.3    /mac.dir [dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov]
ditmela.mel.dit.csiro.au **128.250.90.81   /info-mac [sumex], /mac
isca.icaen.uiowa.edu       128.255.19.175  //isca01/bbs/files/infomac      (M)
ix2.cc.utexas.edu          128.83.1.129    /microlib/mac [ix1.utexas]
jyu.fi                     128.214.7.5     /maclib [sumex]
merlin.cs.purdue.edu       128.10.2.3      /pub/mac [sumex]
midway.uchicago.edu **     128.135.12.73   /pub/OzTex [watmsg.waterloo]
oswego.oswego.edu          129.3.1.1       /pub/mac [sumex]
pollux.lu.se               130.235.132.89  /pub/mac [sumex]
sics.se                    192.16.123.90   /pub/info-mac, /pub/mac
um.cc.umich.edu            35.1.1.43       PC2: [ub-mts]
utsun.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp      133.11.11.11    /Mac, /Mac/info-mac [sumex]
ux1.cso.uiuc.edu           128.174.5.59    /mac/MUG [doc.uiuc] ftp.list
wuarchive.wustl.edu        128.252.135.4   /systems/mac/info-mac [sumex]
 
 
These sites have just a few mac files:
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freebie.engin.umich.edu    141.212.68.23   /pub/macfiles
garbo.uwasa.fi **          ?               /mac
icarus.cns.syr.edu **      128.230.1.49    /software/mac (w/ Unix_Mac list) 
icarus.riacs.edu           134.12.1.1      /pub
jpl-mil.jpl.nasa.gov       128.149.1.101   /pub/Mac
procyon.cis.ksu.edu        129.130.10.80   /pub/MAC
shiva.com **               192.80.57.1     /pub
splicer.cba.hawaii.edu     128.171.17.7    /mac
think.com **               131.239.2.1     /mac
tolsun.oulu.fi             128.214.5.6     /pub/mac
ucsd.edu **                128.54.16.1     /midi/software/macintosh, /pub/mac
zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu       128.174.20.50   /Mac
 
 
These sites are home to a few specific file(s):
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accuvax.nwu.edu **         129.105.49.1    /pub/tiff/mactonext2.sit.hqx
alw.nih.gov **             128.231.128.251 /pub/image (Image & MacMeasure)
arthur.cs.purdue.edu       128.10.2.1      /pub/trinkle/mac32.tar.Z
aux.support.apple.com **   130.43.6.2      / (A/UX stuff)
beach.gal.utexas.edu **    129.109.1.207   /pub/virus/mac (VMS though)
bert.cs.byu.edu **         128.187.2.20    /NCSA_Telnet (BYU's version)
boombox.micro.umn.edu **   128.101.95.95   /pub (macisode, POPmail, addfinder)
brownvm.brown.edu          128.148.128.40  tn3270 with src in /
ccb.ucsf.edu **            128.218.1.13    /Pub/Sound_list (Lots of Sounds)
citi.umich.edu             141.211.128.16  /pub/NetMac.sit
csc2.anu.edu.au            130.56.4.25     /pub/src/MAC (beaver, smtp0.87)
d31.rz0.stanford.edu **    36.76.0.151     /Igor (Igor demos, utilities)
dartvax.dartmouth.edu **   129.170.16.4    /pub/mac (Dartmouth XCMDs, etc)
dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov       128.183.10.134  /mac.dir/MacSecure3.hqx
dustbin.cisco.com          131.108.1.27    Mac telnet w/slip. Get the README.
ftp.acns.nwu.edu **        129.105.113.52  /pub/disinfectant (Disinf HQ)   (L)
ftp.cayman.com **          143.137.1.2     /pub (GatorBox stuff)
ics.uci.edu                128.195.1.1     /mac/think-c                    (M)
imag.imag.fr **            129.88.32.1     /pub/CABRI (Cabri Graph)
indri.primate.wisc.edu     128.104.230.11  /pub/mac (TransSkel & misc)
iraun1.ira.uka.de          129.13.10.90    /pub/mac (SingleShare)
linc.cis.upenn.edu **      130.91.6.8      /pub/NH3.0/mac (Mac NetHack!)
maddog.llnl.gov            128.115.10.1    /pub/uw.tar.Z (unix windows for mac)
madhaus.utcs.utoronto.ca   128.100.102.10  /pub (MacSockets)
math.uni-heidelberg.de     129.206.103.100 /NetWork                        (N)
novamail.cerl.uiuc.edu **  128.174.180.9   /pub/lime (Lime demo, for MIDI)
pcs15.andrew.cmu.edu **    128.2.232.65    /pub (snds from the movie Heathers)
rata.vuw.ac.nz             130.195.2.11    /pub/Mac (some Igor stuff)
ssyx.ucsc.edu              128.114.133.1   /pub/mac (HyperUnix, ClientDA)
tasman.cc.utas.edu.au      131.217.10.1    /pub/mac (Mews, a netnews reader)
uunet.uu.net               137.39.1.2      /languages/abc (ABC prog lang)
watmsg.waterloo.edu **     129.97.129.9    /pub/oztex (Mac TeX, with source)
 
 
I can't connect to these sites, which are supposed to have mac stuff:
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peace.waikato.ac.nz       130.217.64.62   anu-news gnu msdos mac ncsa
slug.pws.bull.com         128.35.10.203   comp.binaries.mac
ucbvax.berkeley.edu **    128.32.137.3    /pub/mac
 
 
These sites have nothing, despite what the global ftp list says:
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acad3.fai.alaska.edu       137.229.10.33   yuck, it's a VMS...
arisia.xerox.com           13.1.100.206
cc.sfu.ca                  128.189.32.250
cmns.think.com             131.239.2.100
f.ms.uky.edu               128.163.128.6
iesd.auc.dk                130.225.48.4
rodan.acs.syr.edu          128.230.1.55
trwind.trw.com             129.4.16.70
wpi.wpi.edu                130.215.24.1
 
 
A couple of miscellaneous sites (because it's my list :-)
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iris1.ucis.dal.ca **                      /pub/gif (NASA pictures)
kfps-roble6-dynamic.stanford.edu          /image/simpsons (Simpsons' GIFs!)
   (special: finger "minakami@neon.stanford.edu" to find IP address)
pilot.njin.net             128.6.7.38     /pub/ftp-list/ftp.list (The Biggie)
 
}
 
Notes on some of the above sites:
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(A) irisa.irisa.fr **
    I thought this site had nothing, but someone pointed out that if you
    look in the /News directory, there are archives of comp.binaries.mac.
    I recommend not doing a directory of it, but instead grabbing the index
    file and looking through it offline.  Also, since this site is in France,
    it is both costly and very slow for folks outside of Europe.
    ALL FILES: /News/comp.binaries.mac/index
    XFER MODE: Use ASCII.
 
(B) ix1.cc.utexas.edu
    Not a large site, but gets some unique files every so often.
    UPLOAD:    send .hqx files to chrisj@emx.utexas.edu
    ALL FILES: /microlib/mac/file-list.txt
    RECENT:    Do a directory.  Get the one with 'Update-[date]' in the name.
 
(C) nic.funet.fi
    This is a very large european (Finland) site.  They are usually current,
    with much of the stuff from Sumex (even the old stuff Sumex has deleted),
    and they also have some unique files you won't find anywhere else. People
    outside of Europe should avoid calling this site often, because it is far
    away and slow (only 56kbit/s).
    UPLOAD:    use ftp 'put' to copy files into /pub/mac/incoming, then
               send mail to mac@funet.fi with descriptions.
    HELP:      /pub/mac/HELP
    ALL FILES: /pub/mac/_file.lst
    RECENT:    /pub/mac/_file.in
    XFER MODE: Use BINARY.
 
(D) rascal.ics.utexas.edu
    This used to be one of the best sites around.  They've slowed down a bit
    (no new files in 2 months), but things are picking up.  My last submission
    to rascal was approved and ready for ftp only an hour after I sent it!
    UPLOAD:    email .hqx files to macgifts@rascal.ics.utexas.edu
    HELP:      /mac/0.README-for-this-directory
    RECENT:    look in the /mac/NEW directory.
    INQUEUE:   /mac/INQUEUE
    XFER MODE: Use BINARY.
 
(E) sumex-aim.stanford.edu
    This is the number one site for mac files.  Everyone on internet submits
    their stuff to info-mac.  Occasionally they get backlogged, but if you
    could only call one site, this would have to be the one.  They also have
    their own list info-mac digests, on usenet it is 'comp.sys.mac.digest.'
    Because of space constraints, they periodically delete old (~1 yr) files.
    UPLOAD:    email posts or .hqx files to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu
    HELP:      look in the /info-mac/help directory.  Read them all.
    RECENT:    /info-mac/recent-files.txt
    ALL FILES: /info-mac/all-files.txt
    INQUEUE:   /info-mac/archive-queue.txt
    XFER MODE: Use ASCII.
 
(F) ub-mts.cc.umich.edu
    Although this is a non-unix machine, They have really done a good job.
    They have had a steady flow of new files for quite awhile now, many of
    them that you won't find on Sumex.  Adobe Type 1 compatible fonts abound
    here!  Note to get a file on unix, try:
    ftp> get PC2:XX/MYFILE myfile.hqx
    Don't do a directory of PC2: It could take years!!!
    UPLOAD:    email .hqx files to Macintosh_Public_Domain@um.cc.umich.edu
    RECENT:    get PC2:!RECENT pc2.recent
    ALL FILES: get PC2:!INDEX pc2.allfiles
    XFER MODE: Use ASCII.
 
(G) wsmr-simtel20.army.mil
    Another non-unix machine.  I have only successfully logged on once, and
    while they have a tremendous number of files, most of them are stale.
    I can't really comment on them until I connect again.
 
(H) apple.com
    Naturally, apple.com is a good place to get such things as the tech notes,
    sample-code notes (but they haven't posted the most current :-( ), and
    system software releases.
    CONTACT:   mjohnson@apple.com if you need to ask DTS something.
    XFER MODE: Use ASCII.
 
(I) doc.cso.uiuc.edu
    This site has a huge amount of macintosh files; they're actually 
    compressed user group disks available for ftp.  This is a good place to
    find mass quantities of source code.  Unfortunately, they haven't updated
    the database in about 6 months.  I have also had problems with 'dir'
    and 'ls -l'.  I can only get 'ls' to work...
    ALL FILES: /mac/MUG/0Biglist.MUG
    HELP:      /mac/MUG/0README.MUG
    XFER MODE: Use ASCII.
 
(J) ftp.apple.com
    This is Apple's soon-to-be dedicated ftp site.  There isn't much of
    anything here yet... It'll probably be ready about the time System 7.0
    is released ;-)
    XFER MODE: Use ASCII.
 
(K) mars.ee.msstate.edu **
    The files here are ubiquitous and stale, but I should also point out this
    site also has an Internet BBS, with multi-user IRC (Internet Relay Chat),
    and a bunch of message bases.  Unfortunately, the bbs is very crowded and
    difficult to get on.  To logon to the BBS (if you're lucky), you'll need
    to use telnet or connect directly, then when it asks for the "login:"
    type "bbs".
 
(L) plains.nodak.edu
    This site has gotten kind of stale, but I did find some source code that
    I hadn't seen anywhere else;  of course they have a variety of other
    things to offer too.
    XFER MODE: Use ASCII.
 
(M) isca.icaen.uiowa.edu **
    The University of Iowa provides some room for the Iowa Student Computing
    Association, and not only have they provided an ftp site (sumex shadow),
    but also an Internet BBS (see mars.ee.msstate.edu, above).  This BBS is
    easy to get on, but they won't let non-UI folks use IRC. Telnet there
    and send 'iscabbs' as your login name.
 
(N) ftp.acns.nwu.edu **
    This is the new headquarters for Disinfectant.  The most current version
    (of course) of Disinfectant and the Disinfectant sample code will live
    here now. 
 
(O) ics.uci.edu
    This is the home site of the Think-C mailing list.  You'll find a bunch
    of Think Class Library stuff here, along with general Think C code,
    interfaces, and updaters.  Read all the README files in /mac/think-c
    for more info (and how to get on the mailing list).
 
(P) math.uni-heidelberg's NetWork stuff is moving over to
    "statlab.uni-heidelberg.de" sometime in the near futuue.

(Q) ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz **
    A brand new site, it has just got off the ground, so there aren't that
    many files yet.  There are a few things I haven't seen anywhere else,
    though. Keep in mind that this site is in New Zealand.
    ALL FILES: /mac/FILE.LIST
    UPLOAD:    Send .hqx files to: mac_ftp@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz
    XFER-MODE: ASCII
 
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