bogie@phoenix.UUCP (Rona J. Kopp) (05/24/85)
something tells me this has already been gone over. (i've only been following the group for a couple of months). i just bought a new car. i can have rustproofing and undercoating done by the dealer (toyota) for $189. or i can go out to ziebart or some such place and have it done there (i haven't got a price from them yet). any recommendations? is this worth doing (note: i live in new jersey - sanding and salting roads in winter is common practice - i also live near the shore - salty air??) thanks.... rona -- Rona J. Kopp AT&T Information Systems/Lincroft, NJ {ihnp4|mtuxo|pegasus}!phoenix!bogie lz3f313 (201) 576-6315
gvcormack@watdaisy.UUCP (Gordon V. Cormack) (05/25/85)
> i can have rustproofing and undercoating done by the dealer (toyota) > for $189. or i can go out to ziebart or some such place and have it > done there (i haven't got a price from them yet). > > any recommendations? Permanent rustproofing is useless (sometimes it contributes to rust). Have your rocker panels, doors, etc. drilled and sprayed with oil EVERY year. Here in Waterloo, this costs $20 CDN and $5 extra for the initial drilling. There are a number of high-priced brand-name companies that do essentially the same thing for 3 or 4 times the price. In my opinion, the best of these is Rust Check, as their "oil" does not seem to make as much mess as regular crankcase oil. Also, they give a 1 year warranty with each treatment renewable ad infinitum with annual treatments. A quick rationale is in order. Rust always forms in seams and enclosed areas that stay damp. Oil must be thin enough to creep into the same places that water would. The oil gets there first and repels the water. Any oil thin enough to do the job will evaporate/run off/ get washed off in the summer, and so needs to be re-applied. Solid and tarry compounds are awful because they form a "skin" on the metal. Eventually, water will get under the skin and will be trapped there. Hence such treatments can easily be worse than nothing. In conclusion, if you oil your car every year, the body should last essentially forever. Even if your car is not new, oiling it will stop any rust in its tracks. -- Gordon V. Cormack CS Department, University of Waterloo gvcormack@watdaisy.uucp gvcormack%watdaisy@waterloo.csnet
heneghan@ihu1m.UUCP (Joe Heneghan) (05/28/85)
> > In conclusion, if you oil your car every year, the body should last > essentially forever. Even if your car is not new, oiling it will > stop any rust in its tracks. This is all fine and good, but you still get rust from the outside in. So, after you wash your car and notice little nicks, touch them up before they grow into big rust spots.