kaplan@marula.cs.uiuc.edu (Simon Kaplan) (04/19/91)
Archive-name: emacs/epoch/epoch/1991-04-18
Archive-directory: cs.uiuc.edu:/pub/epoch-files/epoch/ [128.174.252.1]
Original-posting-by: kaplan@marula.cs.uiuc.edu (Simon Kaplan)
Original-subject: Re: Questions about epoch
Reposted-by: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti, MSEN)
In article <1991Apr18.081728.14658@mack.uit.no> eystein@hannibal.hsn.no (Eystein Mathisen) writes:
I'm sorry I'm replying to the whole net, but "r" doesnt seem to work for me
under gnus just right now...
Epoch is Gnu Emacs 18.55 with extensions to make it "more closely bound into"
X11. It will run with X11R3 or R4. It works with (almost) all window
managers/looks&feels that we know of. Features include:
* multiple x-windows.
* properties, client messages etc.
* ability to mark regions of text by font, color, inverse, underline,
read-only and stipple (fixed-width fonts only at present).
* Does it run under X on Apollo/Domain SR10.2 OS ?
Yes
* How much RAM is required to have a reasonable response ?
Whatever you need to run X plus your applications plus about 2meg for Epoch
(although, like Emacs, the more you're doing with it the bigger it can
grow). On a sparc, I'd expect that to get reasonable response from almost
any X-client I'd need at least 12 meg.
* How many Mbytes of disk-space is required to install it ?
About the same size as GnuEmacs: say around 20 meg, the distribution is
around 12 meg. You need to keep the binary and lisp directories
afterwards. You can share the Epoch lisp files with GnuEmacs but not the
other way around.
* Is it an editor that can serve as a programming-environment
in a 1st year course in programming ?
Well, if you would use GnuEmacs then yes, otherwise no. We do use Emacs
here with our 1st year cs students.
* Is it easy to learn ?
No harder than Emacs. its Emacs + some fairly obvious additional
keybindings, altho of course its infinitely extensible, how baroque do you
want to/need to get?
* Where can I get it (i.e. is it ftp-able or do I have to
purchase it) ?
ftp from cs.uiuc.edu by anonftp. Get the file
pub/epoch-files/epoch/epoch-3.2.tar.Z and the 2 patch files. Apply the
patches.
Epoch is in use at NIT in trondheim, you can perhaps get it from them if
there is a problem with FTP.
It has a reasonable (we think) programmers guide, and a pretty basic users
guide. We assume you already know emacs and have access to the emacs
documentation. That's available from the FSF, details in the epoch
distribution somewhere (try the toplevel README file)
Look in etc/Machines for special details concerning building on your
architecture.
Thanks.
Eystein Mathisen, Nordland College,
Norway.
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-- comp.archives file verification
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total 18976
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 9126 Oct 25 01:04 ANNOUNCE3.2
-rw-rw-rw- 1 117 20 127780 Dec 11 23:29 contrib-3.2.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 49 1171679 Oct 25 15:17 epoch-3.1-3.2-diffs.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 4235 Nov 18 23:08 epoch-3.2-patch-1
-rw-rw-rw- 1 117 20 48744 Mar 2 17:23 epoch-3.2-patch-2.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 262405 Oct 25 01:02 epoch-3.2.epoch-man.dvi.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 323251 Oct 25 01:02 epoch-3.2.epoch-man.ps.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 164027 Oct 25 01:02 epoch-3.2.epoch-man.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 3715577 Oct 25 01:03 epoch-3.2.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 655360 Oct 25 01:03 epoch-3.2.tar.Zaa
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 655360 Oct 25 01:03 epoch-3.2.tar.Zab
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 655360 Oct 25 01:03 epoch-3.2.tar.Zac
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 655360 Oct 25 01:03 epoch-3.2.tar.Zad
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 655360 Oct 25 01:04 epoch-3.2.tar.Zae
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 438777 Oct 25 01:04 epoch-3.2.tar.Zaf
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 49 332831 Oct 25 15:17 epoch-3.2b-3.2-diffs.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 86187 Oct 26 01:59 epoch-lisp-3.2.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 20 5278595 Dec 4 03:02 epoch-next.tar.Z
-rw-rw-rw- 1 117 20 86923 Jan 4 16:37 epoch-rios-patches.tar.Z
-rw-rw-rw- 1 117 20 3926307 Jan 4 03:09 epoch-rios.tar.Z
found epoch ok
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