[comp.archives] [alt.hypertext] Re: Text Management Library

adrianho@barkley.berkeley.edu (Adrian J Ho) (04/17/91)

Archive-name: text/hypertext/tmlib/1991-04-17
Archive: export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/apollo*tmlib* [18.30.0.238]
Original-posting-by: adrianho@barkley.berkeley.edu (Adrian J Ho)
Original-subject: Re: Text Management Library
Reposted-by: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti, MSEN)

In article <2302@cluster.cs.su.oz.au> royce@minnie.cs.su.OZ.AU (Royce William Paul Lithgo) writes:
>Has anyone out there heard of the Text Management Library?
>It is supposed to be a complete extensible hypertext system (written in
>C++) for X.

>It used to be available free on expo.lcs.mit.edu, but all the ftp stuff
>on that site has
>been moved to export.lcs.mit.edu and I can't find it there!

Probably coz you weren't looking for the right files:

	export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/apollo_doc_csm_spec.tar.Z
				    apollo_tmlib_*

If memory serves me correctly (usually not 8-), the TMLib was released
for the Apollos.  I don't know if anyone else has tried porting it to
other systems, and I personally haven't even touched it, but it's
there.

Good luck!

-- comp.archives file verification
export.lcs.mit.edu
-rw-rw-rw-  1 ftp      30          78311 Aug 16  1990 /contrib/apollo_tmlib_csm_advanced_topics.tar.Z
-rw-rw-rw-  1 ftp      30         157095 May  4  1990 /contrib/apollo_tmlib_csm_doc_ascii.tar.Z
-rw-rw-rw-  1 ftp      30         725878 May  4  1990 /contrib/apollo_tmlib_csm_doc_ps_tml_call.tar.Z
-rw-rw-rw-  1 ftp      30        1037907 May  4  1990 /contrib/apollo_tmlib_csm_doc_ps_tml_prog.tar.Z
-rw-rw-rw-  1 ftp      30         776422 Aug 22  1990 /contrib/apollo_tmlib_csm_src.tar.Z
found tmlib ok
export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/apollo*tmlib*

connolly@convex.com (Dan Connolly) (04/20/91)

Archive-name: text/hypertext/tmlib/1991-04-19
Archive: export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/apollo*tmlib* [18.30.0.238]
Original-posting-by: connolly@convex.com (Dan Connolly)
Original-subject: Re: Text Management Library
Reposted-by: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti, MSEN)

What's the deal with the copyright on this thing? :

In <ADRIANHO.91Apr16233251@barkley.berkeley.edu> adrianho@barkley.berkeley.edu (Adrian J Ho) writes:

>In article <2302@cluster.cs.su.oz.au> royce@minnie.cs.su.OZ.AU (Royce William Paul Lithgo) writes:
>>Has anyone out there heard of the Text Management Library?
>>It is supposed to be a complete extensible hypertext system (written in
>>C++) for X.

>>It used to be available free on expo.lcs.mit.edu, but all the ftp stuff
>>on that site has
>>been moved to export.lcs.mit.edu and I can't find it there!

>Probably coz you weren't looking for the right files:

>	export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/apollo_doc_csm_spec.tar.Z
>				    apollo_tmlib_*

>If memory serves me correctly (usually not 8-), the TMLib was released
>for the Apollos.  I don't know if anyone else has tried porting it to
>other systems, and I personally haven't even touched it, but it's
>there.

I downloaded it, changed a VERY few things, and it built like a dream
on a convex. But I found this all over the place:

    (c) Copyright Apollo Computer Inc., 1989 (unpublished)
     --------------------------------------------------------------------
    |THE FOLLOWING PROGRAMS ARE THE SOLE PROPERTY OF APOLLO COMPUTER INC.|
    |      AND CONTAIN ITS PROPRIETARY AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION.     |
     --------------------------------------------------------------------

Unpublished seems contrary to the fact that I got it through anonymous
ftp from export.lcs.mit.edu. Plus there's a file that says:

    We maintain an updated public archive of the base
    TMLib product and the CSM on a machine at MIT. These
    archives are available through anonymous ftp at

        expo@lcs.mit.edu

            internet address: 18.30.0.212

So what's the deal? What are the copyright restrictions?

Dan

p.s. I tried responding to the above address in the README file:
laporta@apollo.hp.com

with no luck.

-- comp.archives file verification
export.lcs.mit.edu
-rw-rw-rw-  1 ftp      30          78311 Aug 16  1990 /contrib/apollo_tmlib_csm_advanced_topics.tar.Z
-rw-rw-rw-  1 ftp      30         157095 May  4  1990 /contrib/apollo_tmlib_csm_doc_ascii.tar.Z
-rw-rw-rw-  1 ftp      30         725878 May  4  1990 /contrib/apollo_tmlib_csm_doc_ps_tml_call.tar.Z
-rw-rw-rw-  1 ftp      30        1037907 May  4  1990 /contrib/apollo_tmlib_csm_doc_ps_tml_prog.tar.Z
-rw-rw-rw-  1 ftp      30         776422 Aug 22  1990 /contrib/apollo_tmlib_csm_src.tar.Z
found tmlib ok
export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/apollo*tmlib*