[comp.archives] [next] Re: eiffel for the NeXT

fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars P. Fischer) (06/22/91)

Archive-name: languages/object/sather/1991-06-18
Archive-directory: icsi-ftp.berkeley.edu:/pub/sather/ [128.32.201.55]
Original-posting-by: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars P. Fischer)
Original-subject: Re: eiffel for the NeXT
Reposted-by: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti, MSEN)


>>>>> On 18 Jun 91 10:32:21 GMT,
>>>>> Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Gerhard Moeller) said:

Gerhard> Does anyone know if there are efforts made to implement the
Gerhard> 'eiffel' - Programming language on the NeXT? 

You might like to take a look at the Sather programming language
available icsi-ftp.berkeley.edu (or gmdzi.gmd.de). Sather is a OOPL
heavily influenced by Eifel (Sather is the name of a tower in the
Berkeley area). Sather is available free of charge and comes with
compiler, library, a GNU Emacs-based environment, and more.

The Sather compiler generates C code so the system should be easy to
port. It currently works with Sun-4 workstations.

The Sather system is currently at a quite early stage in it's
development, but is mature enough that the compiler can compile
itself (ie. the Sather compiler is written in Sather).

The language seems more intended for real programmers and less for
language designers than Eiffel, and he price sure is right.

Gerhard> And I also think that many NeXT users as well as programmers
Gerhard> are sick of those pseudo OO-language hybrids C++ and O-C.

Oh, no. Please, no my-language-is-more-OO-than-yours wars.

Gerhard> (Even though there is hardly an alternative to it, as it's
Gerhard> still Unix we're dealing with...)

I see a great variety of OOPL's available for UNIX, possibly more than
for any other platform.

Gerhard> +-----------------------> the medium is the message <-------------

Lot's of programming language designers would agree with you. Both
languages and programmers suffer (:-).

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer,  fischer@iesd.auc.dk   | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Univ. of Aalborg, DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin

-- comp.archives file verification
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-rw-rw-r--  1 om           2908 Jun 12 00:12 README
drwxrwsr-x  2 bilmes       1024 Jun 11 21:54 split
-rw-rw-r--  1 om           5394 Jun 11 21:52 sather_summary.txt
-rw-rw-r--  1 bilmes    3041615 Jun  6 08:39 sather-0.01.beta.tar.Z
-rw-rw-r--  1 om         125820 Jun  6 01:08 manual.ps
found sather ok
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