[comp.archives] [tcp-ip] Re: well-behaved firewalls

barns@GATEWAY.MITRE.ORG (06/24/91)

Archive-name: internet/route/draft-ietf-rreq-iprouters/1991-06-19
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Original-posting-by: barns@GATEWAY.MITRE.ORG
Original-subject: Re: well-behaved firewalls
Reposted-by: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti, MSEN)

"Son of 1009" aka the Router Requirements RFC (draft) says something
about this.  The proposal will be different from anything now done,
assuming the draft is agreed to (and that stage isn't far away now).
The idea is to make a new ICMP Unreachable subtype code for generic
"communication administratively prohibited".  There are existing codes
(documented in RFC 1122 only) for "communication with host administratively
prohibited" (code 10) and "communication with network administratively
prohibited" (code 9).  I think I would prefer that the new code be sent for
a protocol-specific firewall and probably for a host or network-wide
prohibition as well.  (Such was the intent of the proposal, which by
the way wasn't mine.  Apparently there is some fast algorithm for
filtering packets that works in such a way that you can decide that
something failed much quicker than you can decide why it failed.  Since
the router world is now benchmark-driven, the vendors want the code
structure to support this way of doing things.)

People with (intelligent) opinions on what routers ought to do about
anything related to IP ought to be feeding their inputs to the Router
Requirements Working Group.  Unless something surprising occurs, the
next meeting ought to be at the Atlanta IETF at end of July/beginning
of August.  A (hopefully fairly current) draft is available at the
usual Internet-Drafts repositories including nnsc.nsf.net, in directory
internet-drafts, filename draft-ietf-rreq-iprouters-01.txt.  The
beginning of the document has lots of info about how to contribute
to its development.  It would make sense for people to read the draft
before commenting on what it should say.

Bill Barns / MITRE-Washington / barns@gateway.mitre.org

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