[can.usrgroup] Telebit Protocol support

bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) (05/02/89)

This message is a question for Telebit Trailblazer sites:

In high-speed mode the Trailblazer can support several
asynchronous protocols. It has been my understanding that
the correct configuration for modems was to indicate
general protocol support (S111=255) on autoanswer, and to
specify which, if any, protocol was to be used (S111=30
for uucp) when dialling out.

Recent experience shows that it is possible that not all
sites adhere to this convention, but instead use S111=255
for both answer & dialling out, or else S111=30.

Earlier on, I had been using S111=30, but changed over to
the above description. However I have come across some sites
which default to S111=255, which means that no protocol
support ends up being negotiated. In the case of uucp calls,
this results in a quite significant loss of throughput.

I'm soliciting whatever commentary & discussion is warranted
on this topic...

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lyndon@cs.AthabascaU.CA (Lyndon Nerenberg) (05/04/89)

For the sites I administer I use the following configuration:

	Default state (forced by DTR dropping) is to set register
	50 to 0, and register 111 to 255. This allows the modem to
	handle speed conversion on dialup, and allows the caller to
	specify whatever protocol support they require.

	On uucp dialouts, the modem chat script includes the commands
	to set 50=255 and 111=30 for PEP connections. This is simple
	in HDB uucp (using the Dialers entry), but it's also easy for
	v7 uucp's:

foo Any ACU 9600 15551212;s50=255;s111=30;d ogin: ...

Of course if your v7 uucico likes to treat ';' as a delay character
(did someone say Ultrix?) you are SOL unless you have source, or like
editing binaries with emacs (which isn't as hard as it might sound in
this case - in the Ultrix 1.2 uucico the character ';' only appears in
five places that are likely candidates - you get to guess which one
it is :-)

[ Something else: turn OFF flow control. ALL of it! ]

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cks@ziebmef.uucp (Chris Siebenmann) (05/04/89)

In article <465@becker.UUCP> bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) writes:
| Recent experience shows that it is possible that not all
| sites adhere to this convention, but instead use S111=255
| for both answer & dialling out, or else S111=30.

 S111=30 for dialin and dialout should be no problem with uucp
connections; they always get the high-speed mode. People with S111=255
on dialout should be gently told that there's an easy way to vastly
improve their uucp performance; you can also make a point of calling
them instead of vice versa. I wouldn't worry about the performance
loss unless they're tying up a lot of your modem time.

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