src@scuzzy.uucp (Heiko Blume) (07/12/90)
i *heard* some time ago that a free version of mach is in alpha testing.
is this true? if so, when will a (at least) beta release be available ?
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"Have you bugged your source today?"thomax@utopia.uucp (Thomas Kaulmann) (07/14/90)
src@scuzzy.uucp (Heiko Blume) writes: >i *heard* some time ago that a free version of mach is in alpha testing. >is this true? if so, when will a (at least) beta release be available ? i *HEARD* there is an embargo on the mach-kernel. since the mach-kernel is not available (in no case) except in the states, sony microsystems develope ``muse'', an mach-compatible solution. kr thomax -- bang: ..!(gopnbg,unido)!tmpmbx!einoed!utopia!thomax smart: thomax@utopia.uucp phone# +49 (0)30 614 66 41 / +49 (0)30 390 802 (88|25) fax# +49 (0)30 392 92 52 thomas kaulmann 1000berlin61 alexandrinenstr.42 - it's a bomb! duck & cover. -
a0020@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Axel Clauberg) (07/16/90)
In article <1990Jul13.180640.29423@utopia.uucp> thomax@utopia.uucp (Thomas Kaulmann) writes:
i *HEARD* there is an embargo on the mach-kernel. since the mach-kernel
is not available (in no case) except in the states, sony microsystems develope
``muse'', an mach-compatible solution.
kr thomax
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And I *KNOW* that this isn't true as I have mach 2.5 for my 386 box
(and I'm definitely in Cologne, West Germany... :-)
Axel
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Bitnet: a0020@DK0RRZK0Rick.Rashid@CS.CMU.EDU (07/16/90)
Axel is quite correct. Mach is being distributed world-wide (and has been for quite some time). There is even a Japanese company, Omron, which makes and sells a 4-processor 88000 workstation which uses Mach as its base operating system. Other Japanese and European companies have been working with Mach for some time now. If you want Mach release 2.5 you can get it from CMU by contacting mach@cs.cmu.edu. A commercial release is available from Mt. Xinu for the Sun 3, VAX, IBM RT and more recently the i386. You can contact Mt Xinu's Mach group by contacting mtxinu-mach@mtxinu.com. The open software foundation has based its OSF/1 kernel on Mach release 2.5 and that system is being snapshot released to OSF members. Several companies were, in fact, showing off OSF/1 snapshots at USENIX. The pure Mach kernel with no Unix code inside is being tested extensively now and prepared for release. A presentation on it was given at the Summer USENIX in Anaheim, CA and the paper is in the proceedings. The initial release will be for the i386 (thanks to Intel) and an announcement of its availability will be made on this bboard as well as on the info-mach mailing list. The pure kernel will require no AT&T license but you should keep in mind that a kernel alone is not a complete system. Its usefulness will initially be as a base system software environment for corporations and research organizations, not as an end user product.
limey@sparc2.hri.com (Craig Hughes) (07/17/90)
In article <1990Jul13.180640.29423@utopia.uucp>, thomax@utopia.uucp (Thomas Kaulmann) writes: |> src@scuzzy.uucp (Heiko Blume) writes: |> >i *heard* some time ago that a free version of mach is in alpha testing. |> >is this true? if so, when will a (at least) beta release be available ? |> |> i *HEARD* there is an embargo on the mach-kernel. since the mach-kernel |> is not available (in no case) except in the states, sony microsystems develope |> ``muse'', an mach-compatible solution. |> |> kr thomax Welllll....last thing we heard was that Mach 3.0 had still not been cleared for export by the Department of Commerce. It took forever to release 2.5 to the world at large (largely prompted, I think, by the fact that Hitachi is a major sponsor of OSF, and it would have been mighty embaressing if they weren't allowed access to OSF/1 for export license reasons). It has been exportable for a while; we have it, and our parent company, Mitsubishi Electric, has it. I have heard that there's no particular reason why the technology is being withheld - it's just that a lot of the work was done under DARPA contract, and the DOD and the DOC don't talk as often as they need to in order to get the required export license paperwork through. Dumb? Yes. Silly? Of course....we're dealing with the Government here ! To contribute to the rumor mill....I heard from a researcher in Sweden that they were getting 3.0 in a few weeks. Hmmm....... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- Craig S. Hughes UUCP: ...bbn!hri.com!limey Horizon Research, Inc. INET: limey@hri.com 1432 Main Street Waltham, MA 02154 <- ------------- -> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------