[comp.sys.next] More comparisons

davidc@umd5.umd.edu (David Conrad) (10/27/88)

The following is a table I copied (without permission) from a handout by
International Data Corporation, An International Data Group Company at
the NeXT booth at Educom '88.  I personally have never heard of IDC nor
know for sure what they do.  I provide this for conversational purposes
only, I don't necessarily agree with some of the things listed below. 

Note, most special characters are footnotes, not editorial comments :-). 

                    Apple       Apple       NeXT, Inc   Sun         Sun
Feature             Mac II      Mac IIx     NeXT        386i/250    Sun-3/60
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CPU Type            16Mhz 68020 16Mhz 68030 25Mhz 68030 25Mhz 80386 20Mhz 68020
Floating Point      16Mhz 68881 16Mhz 68882 25Mhz 68882 25Mhz 80387 20Mhz 68881
Dig. Signal Proc.   None        None        25Mhz 56001 None        None
Main Memory (MB)    4-8         4-8         8-16        8-16        4-24
Disk Storage (MB)   40-1000     80-1000     256-1300    91-981      71-1300
Type of Disk        Magnetic    Magnetic    Mag/Opt     Magnetic    Magnetic
Floppy Disk         800KB       3.5 1.44MB  None Avail  3.5 1.44MB  IPC (opt)!
Tape Storage (MB)   40 (opt)    40 (opt)    None@       60          60 (opt)
Expansion Bus       NuBus       NuBus       NuBus       AT Compat   VMEbus
No. & type of slots 6 32-bit    6 32-bit    3 32-bit    3 16, 1 8   2 32 bit
Operating system    MacOS#      MacOS#      Mach        SunOS       SunOS
Imaging Model       QuickDraw   QuickDraw   Disp Post   Postscript% Postscript%
No. Apps Supported  2500        2500        7           250+        1750+
Integer perf.~      2.0 MIPS    2.3 MIPS    5.0 MIPS    5.0+ MIPS   3.0 MIPS
First shipments     4/87        10/88       2Q/89^      7/88        10/87

Pricing&            
12" mono            $9493*      12,699*     N/A         N/A         N/A
17" mono            N/A         N/A         6,500       N/A         N/A
19" mono            N/A         N/A         N/A         15990       17900
Est. Univ. Cost`    5696        7619        6500        9594        10740

Notes:
!   IPC is Sun's IBM PC AT-compatible coprocessor with optional floppy 
    subsystem.
@   Tape-like storage is offered by NeXT on the 256MB removable optical disk.
    although that is not cartridge tape drive in the traditional sense.
#   Apple offers A/UX (Unix) on Mac II systems; pricing is somewhat different
~   Vendor claims or estimated by IDC.
%   Sun did not license Postscript from Adobe Systems; their imaging model
    is Postscript-compatible.
^   Available to key university customers and developers 4Q/88.
&   Pricing is for diskfull configurations with minimum amount of disk
    storage (see above) and 8MB memory.  All specs listed in table are
    considered standard for the price indicated, unless otherwise noted
    as an option.  Education discounts range from 30-50% for both Apple
    and Sun; NeXT is unlikely to discount more than 15%.
*   Apple pricing reflects an additional $2399 for the 4MB Mac II memory
    expansion kit, to total 8MB memory.
`   Estimated cost to universities assuming above configurations and 40%
    across-the-board discounts from Apple and Sun.

I have no affiliation with IDC (whoever they are) or NeXT (though you
wouldn't have to twist my arm to make me take one of their machines). 

-drc
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David R. Conrad      The University of Maryland       arpa: davidc@umd5.umd.edu
(301) 454-2946       PC/IP Group        IBM@UOM     bitnet: conradd@umdd.bitnet

schanck@perch.cis.ohio-state.edu (Christopher Schanck) (10/27/88)

In article <4181@umd5.umd.edu> davidc@umd5.umd.edu (David Conrad) writes:
>                    Apple       Apple       NeXT, Inc   Sun         Sun
>Feature             Mac II      Mac IIx     NeXT        386i/250    Sun-3/60
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Est. Univ. Cost`    5696        7619        6500        9594        10740
                                                         ^^^^
	                                                 Will someone
please tell me where I can get a 386i at an educational rate? I've not
heard of such a thing!
>Notes:
>    as an option.  Education discounts range from 30-50% for both Apple
>    and Sun; NeXT is unlikely to discount more than 15%.
>`   Estimated cost to universities assuming above configurations and 40%
>    across-the-board discounts from Apple and Sun.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>David R. Conrad      The University of Maryland       arpa: davidc@umd5.umd.edu
>(301) 454-2946       PC/IP Group        IBM@UOM     bitnet: conradd@umdd.bitnet

Chris

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