[net.auto] PONTIAC GRAND AM

heiser@cca.UUCP (Bill Heiser) (02/08/85)

Have any of you readers (or do you know anyone who has purchased) the new
1985 Pontiac Grand Am (or its siblings, the Olds Calais or Buick Somerset)?
 
If so, how do you (or they) like it?  Have you(they) had any problems yet?
 
I purchased a Grand Am 4-cyl, 5-speed in November, and am wondering how
other people like theirs.  I'm interested in corresponding with anyone
who may be willing to share their feelings on these cars.   
 
 Also, if anyone is considering the purchase of one, and would like any
information, please feel free to ask.
 
 Thanks in advance.
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churm@ihuxf.UUCP (b.r. churm) (08/05/85)

I recall a few postings requesting information on the
PONTIAC GRAND AM a while back, so I felt this may help
those who are in the market for one.


This Saturday I just picked up my new GRAND AM from our
local Pontiac dealer, Village Pontiac in Naperville, IL.

While shopping for the car, I just about visited every
Pontiac dealership in the Chicago area. The GRAND AM seems
to be a very popular car making it a sellers market.
Few dealers would negotiate anything lower than full sticker price.
I found the best buy was through the United Buying Services (from work)
at Village Pontiac.

The car I purchased was loaded: I got the V6 engine/Automatic (strongly suggested),
handling package w/Goodyear Eagle GTs, most options, sunroof etc.
The 1986 GR AMs are out. Changes include a price increase around $600.00,
center rear stopping light, different headlights, a SE (Sports) Model, and
a four door model. Basically the same car except more expensive.

The fun started when I took the car off the lot. The V6 fuel injected
engine has good pick up and the car performs quite well. The handling
package makes the ride stiff, but it was to be expected. HOWEVER......

the usual GM problems started occurring within three hours:

	1) The Drivers side electric window didn't work
	2) I noticed that the front end was slightly out of 
	   alignment
	3) The V6 had starting problems when warm.
	4) The premium sound system DELCO AM/FM/Cassette doesn't
	   play cassettes, it eats them.
	
when I thought I noticed all the problems. Guess what? It rained.

	5) The sunroof leaked soaking the ceiling and interior.
	6) When removing the sunroof, to inspect the seal, I found
	   the glass etched.

Pontiac advertises a three pass Vehicle Inspection Program (VIP) to
catch all of the defects. I wonder what they inspect, the ash tray?
Its obvious Village Pontiac didn't inspect this car.

My advice to any GRAND AM buyers:

	It is a very nice little car. However, as with new GM cars
there are many bugs. Inspect your car ten times over before (BEFORE)
handing over the money to the dealer. I am kicking myself over
that which I missed. 

My questions to net.auto:

Being my first car with a sunroof, can I ever expect the dealer to
be able to repair the leaks? Or is this something inherent in sunroofs?

Also are warm starting problems common with the fuel injection V6 engines?


Needless to say PONTIAC is getting the car back this week for repairs.

If anybody has any questions on GRAND AMs ask, I've pretty well studied
this particular car for the past three months. 

	ihnp4!ihuxf!churm

					Brian Churm
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