[comp.sys.next] NeXT voice mail sample wanted

watson@ames.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson) (10/28/88)

[eat me!]

Could some NeXT users on the net please mail me, or post, about 1 second
of digitized sound, using the voice mail application.

I'm curious to see how big is is and how it is packed, ie...

      digital data | uuencoded | mail 

      or maybe:
 
      digital data | compress | uuencode | mail

Or how about a copy of the "This is Steve Jobs at Davies Symphony Hall
on Oct 12 ..." recording.  

Thanks in Advance,

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jaw@eos.UUCP (James A. Woods) (10/28/88)

> I'm curious to see how big is is and how it is packed, ie...
> 
>       digital data | compress | uuencode | mail
> 
this is currently true, according to cognizant personnel over on deer creek
road.  by now, however, they are acutely aware that

	bits | compress | btoa | mail

is seven percent better, and all manner of time series processing
tricks can reduce the bit rate even further.

it is a good research problem to see which techniques can be applied
in near-realtime.  agreed -- an uncompressed five or ten second 
phoneme test string would be a most welcome posting. 

Bernard.Aboba@f445.n161.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bernard Aboba) (10/30/88)

What does the NeXT Voice Mail application do?  Does it answer the 
telephone, accept touch tone input, and branch, like my $200 Big Mouth 
board does on a PC, or is it something much less functional?  I do not 
think it is appropriate to call something VOICE MAIL unless it actually 
does what a typical business voice mail system does.  Just wondering.



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watson@ames.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson) (11/01/88)

In article <277.236CC2D9@mailcom.FIDONET.ORG> Bernard.Aboba@f445.n161.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bernard Aboba) writes: 
> What does the NeXT Voice Mail application do?  Does it answer the 
> telephone, accept touch tone input, and branch, like my $200 Big Mouth 
> board does on a PC, or is it something much less functional?  I do not 
> think it is appropriate to call something VOICE MAIL unless it actually 
> does what a typical business voice mail system does.  Just wondering.

I don't really know what a typical voice mail system does, 
we only got our rotary-dial phones replaced by touch tone phones 
a couple months ago. :-)

But, from what I saw at the indrotuction, the "voice mail" application works
something like this (the sender and receiver both have NeXT machines):
You jabber something into the microphone (assuming you have a 
microphone connected to your system), and the the voice mail digitizes
and bundles up the data into your standard unix/uucp/usenet mail format,
and sends the "messages" to whoever you are mailing to on the 
usenet/arpanet/bitnet.  Upon receiving, the voice mail application 
automatically unbundles the message and plays it to you.  
Now instead of your boss writting you telling you to get back to work, 
you can actually hear his voice, in CD quality sound (or whatever 
quality your input is digitized as).

I'm sure the record industry's lawyers are going to love this.
Does anyone know how many bytes are in "Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts
Club Band"? :-).

It also makes me wonder if you can talk in a NeXT machine in your office,
transmit across the ethernet, and have it play back in real time,
on the NeXT machine down the hall.  

That's kind of why I want to see a sample of this stuff, 
to see how big it is going to be, and maybe get a feel for 
how much load there will be networks.

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John "Myrtle" Watson, IBM heir in hiding      ARPA: watson@ames.arc.nasa.gov 
NASA Ames Research Center                     UUCP:  ...!ames!watson
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bob@allosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield) (11/01/88)

In article <17411@ames.arc.nasa.gov> watson@ames.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson) writes:
>I'm sure the record industry's lawyers are going to love this.
>Does anyone know how many bytes are in "Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts
>Club Band"? :-).

As a student, I worked with a guy whose life dream it was to digitize
all of "In-a-gadda-da-vida" (sp?), by Iron Butterfly.  We were playing
with some odd devices and regularly hanging our 750's Unibus.  He
became despondent when just the introduction, at what he considered a
reasonable sample rate, filled his RLO2.  He couldn't talk the system
manager out of an RK07 (he was probably mad about our occasionally
wedging the Unibus during production hours), and gave up the project
for the time.  Now I think he's got a Wren-N on his MacII and may be
attacking it again.
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