[net.auto] Another Tire Question

dave@ihu1h.UUCP (Dave Miller) (07/07/84)

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In 1976 I purchased a new car with Firestone 500 tires.  At the time,
there was news on the radio about these tires killing people and some
organization was calling for a recall. After about 2 or 3 years, I was
notified by mail that they had been recalled.  For $88.00 I got new 
Firestone 721 tires installed with  balancing and valves.  The tires
were much better with regard to handling, ride, and quiteness.

As luck would have it, 1978 I purchased a second new car with Uniroyal
tires.  I again heard on the radio that some organization was calling
for a recall of these Uniroyal tires. I never received a letter.

Today, I have 23,000 miles on these Uniroyal tires Just like Scott W.
Collins mentioned in another article, they shimmy at most speeds and
wobbles slightly up and down at a crawl and seems out-of-round when spun
up on a jack. The tread seams too good to replace them, but they are
poor tires compared to the Firestone 500 tires for handling, ride, and
quiteness.

I have not yet contacted a Uniroyal dealer, but plan to. Before I do, If
any other net news people have had experience with these tires or dealer
adjustments, I would appreciate any information.

                       Thank you, Dave Miller IH x3791 ihu1h!dave

mayer@rochester.UUCP (08/06/85)

From: Jim Mayer  <mayer>

I have another question about auto tires (responses are still filtering
in on my previous 'Tire Question').  One of the tire dealers I talked to
suggested that it probably wouldn't be worth upgrading to a better tire
of the same size, and that I should look at a wider tire.  He claimed that
a wider tire would give me better handling at no penalty in gas milage.

Another dealer said going to a wider tire would give me negligible
handling improvements and a 5 to 10 percent drop in gas milage.

To complicate things further, the car I'm talking about has 165/80R13
tires.  Apparently the only suitable wider tire is a 175/80R13 (this
number comes from the second dealer), which is not only wider but
taller as well.  My intuition suggests that a wider tire should give
more friction (and lower gas milage), and that a taller tire should
effectively lower the final drive ratio giving better gas milage (and
worse acceleration).

Alas, I am confused.

-- Jim Mayer					University of Rochester
(arpa) mayer@Rochester.ARPA			Department of Computer Science
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