[comp.sys.next] X windows on the nExt

brett@rtech.rtech.com (Brett Taylor) (04/12/89)

Anyone out there planning on porting X to the nExt machine?  Seems like
you could approach it several ways.  The first being to take over the
display like the current X model.  The second and more desirable method
would be, have an X server translate X requests into nExt step calls.
This would allow concurrent nExt apps and X apps.

Thanks in advance for any information.

jec@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (James E. Conley) (04/12/89)

	According to the latest InfoWorld, NeXT has been talking to MIT (okay,
the X Consortium) about porting X to the NeXT.  X applications would run under
the NeXT Step environment if I read it correctly.  The article pointed out that
at this point they are talking it over and trying to figure out who should do
what.  No code work has been done as far as InfoWorld knew.

James Conley
Indiana University Computer Science
jec@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu

jdn@mas.UUCP (Jeff Nisewanger) (04/13/89)

In article <2777@rtech.rtech.com> brett@rtech.rtech.com (Brett Taylor) writes:
>Anyone out there planning on porting X to the nExt machine?  Seems like
>you could approach it several ways.  The first being to take over the
>display like the current X model.  The second and more desirable method
>would be, have an X server translate X requests into nExt step calls.
>This would allow concurrent nExt apps and X apps.
>
	Except that Display PostScript doesn't support traditional
rasterop functions and X11 is centered around using rasterops for
any kind of special effects like rubber-banding etc. etc.

	Jeff Nisewanger
	Measurex Automation Systems
	....apple!mas1!jdn

hoyt@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Sir Hoyt) (04/14/89)

In article <1781@mas1.mas.UUCP> jdn@mas1.UUCP (Jeff Nisewanger) writes:
>	Except that Display PostScript doesn't support traditional
>rasterop functions and X11 is centered around using rasterops for
>any kind of special effects like rubber-banding etc. etc.

	True, the current implementations of X servers use
	'traditional rasterops' to render an image on the screen.  
	But from what I know about X, there is nothing that says you 
	have to render the images this way ( am I wrong ?? ).

	An xclient ask the X server to draw a line from
	point A to point B.  How the X server 'draws' the line
	on the screen is of no concern to the xclient.
	

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ktly@vax5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU (04/14/89)

In article <19516@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> jec@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (James E. Conley) writes:
>	According to the latest InfoWorld, NeXT has been talking to MIT (okay,
>the X Consortium) about porting X to the NeXT.  X applications would run under
>the NeXT Step environment if I read it correctly.  The article pointed out that
>at this point they are talking it over and trying to figure out who should do
>what.  No code work has been done as far as InfoWorld knew.
>James Conley
>Indiana University Computer Science
>jec@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu

	When I spoke with Jobs during his visit to Cornell in February, he
said that NeXT wouldn't offer a version of X because, "there isn't a signif-
icant body of software that runs under X-Windows."  He did mention that MIT
may be doing a version, though.

	-Jonathan

P.S.  Does anybody remember Jobs ridiculing mice with more than one button
      soon after the Mac came out?