snoopy@ecrcvax.UUCP (Sebastian Schmitz) (07/30/85)
Expires: References: Sender: Reply-To: snoopy@ecrcvax.UUCP (Sebastian Schmitz) Followup-To: net.followup Distribution: Organization: European Computer-Industry Research Centre, Munchen, W. Germany Keywords: Dear All, well thanks to the pestering efforts of Nigel Horne, Rick Paul and Jack Jansen, here is a little summary file of the responses I got regarding my query for a window system for 'normal' i.e. non-high-res, de-miced terminals. John at Genrad actually did send me the stuff for maryland windows. I quite like it although due to the size of the screen (only 24 lines for our terminals) it really is not all very useful. Still *I* like messing with them just to be different. Also it gets you thinking about these pty's a lot.... Anyway thanks so much to all of you who responded: net.support is the best thing since sliced bread. I hope that the information summarised here is useful... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From unido!mcvax!decvax!cornell!ctvax!infoswx!lan000!rfw A company here in Dallas is currently developing such a product for use under Xenix, and might be willing to sell the source code for a port to the VAX running BSD. Contact: Michael McChesney Five Paces Software, Inc. 9635 Wendell Road Dallas, TX 75243 Phone (214) 340-4933 Telex 5101011006(FIVE PACES) allegra \ Randy Wright ihnp4 >!convex!infoswx!lan000!rfw Lantech Systems, Inc. uiucdcs / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From unido!mcvax!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!cybvax0!frog!aphasia!gww We have an editor (called ase) that reads termcap, allows rectangular windows essentially anywhere on the screen (overlapping, etc.). It has a minimal ability to attach a window to a pty and run the shell from that. This is not public domain at the momment, nor is it our standard product, but we would probably be willing to sell. The editor runs on bsd 4.2 and vms. I can send you documentation if you are interested. George Williams {decvax!frog, cit-vax}!aphasia!gww --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From unido!mcvax!philabs!sdcsvax!celerity!barto Wait for 4.3. There will be a program called 'window'. This runs multiple windows on standard ascii terminals. I have the 4.2 version. 4.3 should be out in about 3-4 weeks for people who can read 6250 bpi tapes. /* did you hear that ?!?!?! ^^^^^^^ - anyone out there have a drive that does BOTH 6250 and 1600 bpi ??? I WANT 4.3 !!!! (Whoever had the silly idea to distribute 4.3 on such a tape density ?? Or am I being silly ? - Sebastian */ -- David Barto, Celerity Computing, San Diego Ca, (619) 271-9940 decvax-\ ARPA: celerity!barto@sdcsvax.ARPA ucbvax--\ akgua-\ ihnp4----\-sdcsvax-\-celerity!barto "There are no moral lessons in nature" - Darwin ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From unido!mcvax!seismo!csnet-relay.arpa!NEVILLE@umass-cs.csnet /* Neville here suggests that I look at curses but then adds : */ I have a package, called Swift, written by a friend of mine (Bob Fly) which does do true virtual windows. i haven't been able to get in touch with him about distributing it, though. i have added some features, and made some fixes (there is still one bug i can't isolate), and find it very much easier to use than curses. It's fast, too. The VMS version is as fast (sometimes faster) than DEC's own package called SMG. -neville newman neville@umass-cs ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From unido!mcvax!seismo!harvard!wjh12!genrad!john Fri Jul 12 07:30:18 1985 /* John kindly sent me a package called 'maryland' windows. It works fine with our Vt100 and VT220 terminals but I am having some difficulty making our screen editors (ded and emacs) work on a window basis. Vi seems to be ok though. -Seb */ John Nelson (decvax!genrad!john) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From unido!mcvax!decvax!nrl-css!jacob Thu Jul 11 07:30:10 1985 /* Basically mentions wm which are the maryland windows I think. At least the name is the same. */ Rob Jacob ARPA: jacob@nrl-css UUCP: ...!decvax!nrl-css!jacob SNAIL: Code 7590, Naval Research Lab, Washington, D.C. 20375 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From unido!mcvax!seismo!harvard!wjh12!genrad!john Tue Jul 9 21:16:14 1985 Have you heard of the Maryland Window Library by Chris Torek? I could send you the documentation, or the sources. There may be restrictions on it's use for commercial applications. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Love, Sebastian (Snoopy) "You haven't done it, till you've done it with pointers" \!mcvax\!unido\!ecrcvax\!snoopy /* N.B. valid csh address */
chris@umcp-cs.UUCP (Chris Torek) (07/31/85)
By the way, the 4.3 "wm" doesn't seem to use insert and delete line. This makes it intensely painful at 1200 baud on an H19 or other reasonably smart terminal. -- In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Univ of MD Comp Sci Dept (+1 301 454 4251) UUCP: seismo!umcp-cs!chris CSNet: chris@umcp-cs ARPA: chris@maryland