[comp.sys.next] Has 0.9 shipped?

becca@nueces.UUCP (Becca Robertson) (04/27/89)

Does anyone out there have 0.9 yet?

mccoy@accuvax.nwu.edu (Jim McCoy ) (04/27/89)

In article <278@nueces.UUCP> becca@nueces.UUCP (Becca Robertson) writes:
>Does anyone out there have 0.9 yet?

While i'm sure that people will have received it by the time this
message propagates, I have seen 0.9 but not received it.  We had a
campus Computer Faire and the NeXT people had .9 running and I had a
chance to play around with it for a while.  

	-It is still not performanced tuned; the graphics are still SLOW.

	-Mathmatica is REALLY SLOW (compared to a Mac IIx) but  it works.

	-There are a few new demo applications (an object oriented
	 drawing program, etc.) and the preferences application.

	-I took a look at digital librarian for a few seconds, and
	 noticed that a few of the uppermost icons (i.e. NeXT Ref
	 Manuals, Websters, etc.) were empty--does this mean we will
	 be able to create documents for teh librarian (somehow i
	 doubt it)

	-Didn't get a chance to check out CL or much else at the time

It looks like it will be an improvement and bug-fix (like that bug
called WriteNow :-) but there is nothing really earth-shaking about it.

				jim

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gore@eecs.nwu.edu (Jacob Gore) (04/27/89)

/ comp.sys.next / mccoy@accuvax.nwu.edu (Jim McCoy ) / Apr 26, 1989 /
>We had a
>campus Computer Faire and the NeXT people had .9 running and I had a
>chance to play around with it for a while.  

That was not 0.9; they called it "0.89".  I wouldn't base any observations on
it -- sales demo versions are often worse than the real thing.

Jacob Gore				Gore@EECS.NWU.Edu
Northwestern Univ., EECS Dept.		{oddjob,chinet,att}!nucsrl!gore

edmoy@violet.berkeley.edu (04/27/89)

In article <278@nueces.UUCP> becca@nueces.UUCP (Becca Robertson) writes:
>Does anyone out there have 0.9 yet?

This is what I heard.  Two weeks ago, the 0.9 golden master OD was ready,
but they had problems copying the disk so that all possible drives could
read it.  NeXT had decided to try to obtain a bunch of out-of-specification
drives to test their disk on, in hopes that if their disk was readable on
these drives, it would be readable on all drives.

Only time will tell :-)

The last I heard (yesterday), we at Berkeley should expect it "any day now".

Only time will tell :-)

Edward Moy				Principal Programmer - Macintosh & Unix
Workstation Support Services		Workstation Software Support Group
University of California
Berkeley, CA  94720

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mpm@berlin.acss.umn.edu (Mark P. McCahill) (04/28/89)

In article <23685@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>, edmoy@violet.berkeley.edu writes:
> In article <278@nueces.UUCP> becca@nueces.UUCP (Becca Robertson) writes:
> >Does anyone out there have 0.9 yet?
> 
> The last I heard (yesterday), we at Berkeley should expect it "any day now".
> 
> Only time will tell :-)
> 

I just finished talking to our NeXT salesman. He said that he was
"confident that 0.9 will be in our hands by the end of next week".
At least all the salepeople are saying the same thing. 


Mark McCahill
Microcomputer & Workstation Networks Group
University of Minnesota

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dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) (04/28/89)

In article <310@berlin.acss.umn.edu> mpm@berlin.acss.umn.edu (Mark P. McCahill) writes:
>I just finished talking to our NeXT salesman. He said that he was
>"confident that 0.9 will be in our hands by the end of next week".
>At least all the salepeople are saying the same thing. 

The NeXT people I talked to this week said we will positively have it
by TODAY (we do not).  Now I hear another week.  This whole business is
really starting to bug me.  I can understand delays, but they ought to
stop promising what they aren't going to deliver.
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BSD@PSUVM.BITNET (Scott Dickson) (04/29/89)

In article <647@accuvax.nwu.edu.NWU.EDU>, mccoy@accuvax.nwu.edu (Jim McCoy ) says:
>
>In article <278@nueces.UUCP> becca@nueces.UUCP (Becca Robertson) writes:
>
>        -I took a look at digital librarian for a few seconds, and
>         noticed that a few of the uppermost icons (i.e. NeXT Ref
>         Manuals, Websters, etc.) were empty--does this mean we will
>         be able to create documents for teh librarian (somehow i
>         doubt it)
>
You can already create documents for the librarian.  It isn't documented
anywhere I could find, but it is possible.  There is a directory under
.NeXT in each home called targets.  This directory contains all of the
icons for the librarian, as well as a file called #Targets.  The #Targets
file contains commands to tell it what goes in each well.  For each well,
there are several fields.  It seems like the ones
title
icon
position
are all required.  These specify the title of the document, the icon
to use, and the well number for that doc.  The icons are all .ps files
in the targets directory.  In addition, there can be either a field
directory that tells what directory contains the document, or a field
message that tells what other app to launch from here.  Examples will
clear this up.

For the NeXT documentation, the entry looks like:
title NeXT Documentation
icon binder.ps
position 1
directory /MyDisk/Library/Documentation/NeXT

For the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, it looks like
title Oxford Quotations
icon oxford.ps
position 5
message Quotation [quote]

For directories, the directory must contain an index created
by the index program.  This one is also not well documented
and is somewhat buggy.  If you follow its leads and read the
shell scripts that it runs, you can pretty much figure it out
as well.

So, the upshot is you can add your own documents.  I have already
added Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s I Have a Dream speech,
all of the US Presidential Inaugural addresses through Nixon,
John Milton's Paradise Lost, and a couple of Dr. Seuss books.

I hope this doesn't change too much in 0.9, but I hear that
index is supposed to get better.

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--Scott Dickson
Graphics Research Programmer
Penn State Univ. Computation Center
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sstanfie@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (skot) (05/01/89)

In article <89118.215524BSD@PSUVM> BSD@PSUVM.BITNET (Scott Dickson) writes:
>So, the upshot is you can add your own documents.  I have already
>added Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s I Have a Dream speech,
>all of the US Presidential Inaugural addresses through Nixon,
>John Milton's Paradise Lost, and a couple of Dr. Seuss books.
>--Scott Dickson

Are any of these files on ftp sites?  I'm wondering how to add to the
library (you can only look through Shakespear so many times).


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