isbell@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Art Isbell) (06/25/89)
Below is a summary of NeXT prices at several universities. As you can see,
quite a variation exists. Because I have the misfortune of being required to
purchase through the University of Colorado, which has NeXT prices at the top
of the range, I have been priced out of the NeXT market. So much for the
NeXT goal of a system affordable to students..........
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
basic system 7,385
(cube with 8M RAM +
MegaPixel display +
keyboard + mouse +
flopty + software)
scholar's system 9,659
(basic + printer)
advanced system 9,659
(basic + 330M h.d.)
developer's system 14,200
(scholar's + 660M h.d.)
server system 15,340
(basic + 8M RAM + 660M h.d.)
printer 2,275
4M RAM 1,705
330M h.d. 2,275
660M h.d. 4,545
These prices do not include sales tax, but do include shipping.
Organization: California Institute of Technology
6.5%taxes+3% order fee
Organization: Princeton University, NJ
about 5% markup
Subject: NeXT prices at Georgia Tech
Georgia Tech and the rest of the Georgia public university system
can only purchase NeXT products from Emory (private university)
10%, then 5% sales tax and $30 shipping
Michigan State University has a very simple pricing policy for
selling NeXT computers: Take the University cost of whatever system
you want and add $325. (Plus tax, of course.)
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge MA
I know that MIT has a 13% overhead
Below is the price list for NeXT systems at Carnegie Mellon.
Pennsylvania sales tax (6%) will be collected on all individual sales.
NeXT WORKSTATION ("Special Order" Only)
Model N9001-08 (8MB mem., 256MB mag/opt) 6770.00*
Model N9001-12 (12MB mem., 256MB mag/opt) 8330.00*
Model N9001-16 (16MB mem., 256MB mag/opt) 9830.00*
Model N9002-08 (8MB mem., 256MB mag/opt,
330MB Hard Disk) 8855.00*
Model N9002-12 (12MB mem., 256MB mag/opt,
330MB Hard Disk) 10415.00*
Model N9002-16 (16MB mem., 256MB mag/opt,
330MB Hard Disk) 11975.00*
Model N9003-08 (8MB mem., 256MB mag/opt,
660MB Hard Disk) 10940.00*
Model N9003-12 (12MB mem., 256MB mag/opt,
660MB Hard Disk) 12500.00*
Model N9003-16 (16MB mem., 256MB mag/opt,
660MB Hard Disk) 14060.00*
Laser Printer (400 dpi) 2085.00
Toner Cartridge (In Stock) 110.00
* Includes Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor (17", B/W, 4 Grayscales)gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu (06/27/89)
Re: University markups on NeXT machines Maybe this is a rather accurate measurement of the amount of bloating/fat in the university administration? 8-)
george@eitri.cs.cornell.edu (George R. Boyce) (06/28/89)
I'm sure some people look at different markups and attribute it to bad university policy or generic greed. But give the central computer service organizations a break; they have to live within the funding model of their particular university. Some have to recover all their costs, some have to recover nothing, and some only have to recover costs in sales areas, etc. So I don't think you can conclude anything from a price survey. George, former central computer service employee
cbenda@unccvax.UUCP (carl m benda) (07/02/89)
Its interesting how the universities claim the added cost is due to the support and set up of the NeXT itself. Suppose I want to purchase a machine free of support from the university. Suppose I would agree to have NeXT drop the machine of at my p.o. box at the University. The machine should cost no more than 6500 plus tax plus shipping. Why is this NOT possible? /Carl p.s. if I want to purchase an on site service agreement/support agreement, then that would be my option.
merlin@smu.uucp (David Hayes) (07/08/89)
Universities add something to the cost of a NeXT for service, maintenance, and setup. You can't have NeXT just send one to your dorm room, and set it up yourself: 1. NeXT won't sell you a machine. They only sell them to Businessland, and universities who've signed a contract with NeXT. 2. The terms of the NeXT contract for a university allow them to charge whatever they want for the box, but they are not permitted to sell it without support/maintenance.
bmartin@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Brian Martin) (07/15/89)
In article <1540@unccvax.UUCP> cbenda@unccvax.UUCP (carl m benda) writes: > >Its interesting how the universities claim the added cost is due to the >support and set up of the NeXT itself. Suppose I want to purchase a machine >free of support from the university. Suppose I would agree to have NeXT drop >the machine of at my p.o. box at the University. The machine should cost no >more than 6500 plus tax plus shipping. > >Why is this NOT possible? At least you have an option of actually purchasing one at an educational discount. We can't. From what I've been told, our computer center decided that they didn't have the desire/expertise to support the NeXT, so wouldn't sign a purchase agreement with NeXT. I suppose it's because they're too busy babysitting all those IBM "mainframes" they've got 8-). -- Brian
david@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (David Lassner) (07/18/89)
In article <4348@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> bmartin@uhccux.UUCP (Brian K. Martin, M.D.) writes: >From what I've been told, our computer center decided that they didn't have >the desire/expertise to support the NeXT, so wouldn't sign a purchase >agreement with NeXT. I suppose it's because they're too busy babysitting >all those IBM "mainframes" they've got 8-). >-- Brian We've already contacted Brian Martin, but in case there are any other readers of this newsgroup at the University of Hawaii who missed out on the news, UH signed the purchase agreement with NeXT on May 15. There's more information in the summer edition of the Computing Center newsletter or you're welcome to contact me directly. -- David Lassner, University of Hawaii Computing Center INTERNET: david@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu BITNET: david@uhccux Voice: 808/948-7351 FAX: 808/946-5848