farber@linc.cis.upenn.edu (David Farber) (07/20/89)
there has got to be a way to print a cut piece of a file with out opening the Editor , pasting it and then Print it (I hope there is). Some one tell me the secret. Clearly there has to be one. Dave David Farber; Prof. of CIS and EE, U of Penn, Philadelphia, PA 19104-6389 Tele: 215-898-9508(off); 215-274-8292 (home); FAX: 215-274-8192; Cellular: 302-740- 1198 "The fundamental principle of science, the definition almost, is this: the sole test of the validity of any idea is experiment." -- R. P. Feynman
dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) (07/20/89)
In article <13066@netnews.upenn.edu> farber@linc.cis.upenn.edu (David Farber) writes: > > >there has got to be a way to print a cut piece of a file with out opening >the Editor , pasting it and then Print it (I hope there is). I *think* you are supposed to be able to use the "User" menu for this; see the Edit documentation in the DL. I've never been able to get it to work, but I haven't tried hard. On a related issue; it sure would be nice if there were a unix device called "scrap", that handled the scrap. Then, I could say: % cat foo bar >/dev/scrap or % enscript </dev/scrap Failing that, it would be ok if there were unix commands called cut, copy, paste, and clear, with the following behaviors: cut - like cat, only it would write into the scrap, not stdout copy - like cat, only it would write to BOTH the scrap and stdout paste - would produce the contents of the scrap on stdout clear - empty the scrap I think the utility of these things is obvious. I don't know about how easy or difficult they would be to write; though I suspect they wouldn't be tough. Unfortunately, I don't have time to try right at the moment. -- Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.edu UUCP: {convex,uunet}!uiucuxc!dorner IfUMust: (217) 244-1765
dz@lime.ucsb.edu (Daniel James Zerkle) (07/20/89)
>On a related issue; it sure would be nice if there were a unix device >called "scrap", that handled the scrap. Then, I could say: > >% cat foo bar >/dev/scrap > >or > >% enscript </dev/scrap > >Failing that, it would be ok if there were unix commands called cut, copy, >paste, and clear, with the following behaviors: > >cut - like cat, only it would write into the scrap, not stdout >copy - like cat, only it would write to BOTH the scrap and stdout >paste - would produce the contents of the scrap on stdout >clear - empty the scrap > This is trivial: Cut: prgname > /tmp/scrap (replace scrap) prgname >> /tmp/scrap (append to scrap) Copy: prgname | tee /tmp/scrap (replace scrap) prgname | tee -i /tmp/scrap (append to scrap) Paste: prgname < /tmp/scrap OR cat /tmp/scrap | whatever Clear: rm /tmp/scrap (remove scrap) cp /dev/null /tmp/scrap (empty scrap) With the C shell (or some equivalent), it should be no big deal to set up aliases called cut, copy, paste, and clear to do this. If you really want to get fancy, set up this in your .login: set scrap=/tmp/scrap$$ and refer to $scrap in your aliases. This way, each user will have a unique scrap file ($$ to the C-Shell means its own process id.) It would also be a good idea for the .logout file to remove your scrap, so there wouldn't be garbage cluttering up the /tmp file after a few people have been in and out. Have fun!
dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) (07/21/89)
In article <2098@hub.UUCP> dz@cornu.ucsb.edu (Daniel James Zerkle) writes: >>cut - like cat, only it would write into the scrap, not stdout >>... >This is trivial: > >Cut: prgname > /tmp/scrap (replace scrap) >... The obvious problem with this is that /tmp/scrap means NOTHING to Edit, WriteNow, the Digital Library, or anything else that uses Cut, Copy, and Paste from the AppKit. I need to be able to paste into <generic unix command> something I have just copied from <whiz-bang NeXT application>, and vice-versa. Try unpacking a shar archive that someone has mailed you sometime. You have to copy it from Mail, paste it into Edit, save it, close it, then run sh on it from the Shell, and delete the temporary Edit file. It would be oh-so-nice to be able to copy it from Mail, and say "paste | sh" or "sh </dev/scrap". -- Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.edu UUCP: {convex,uunet}!uiucuxc!dorner IfUMust: (217) 244-1765
bruce@heather.pooh.com (Bruce Robertson) (07/24/89)
In article <1515@garcon.cso.uiuc.edu> dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) writes:
Try unpacking a shar archive that someone has mailed you sometime.
You have to copy it from Mail, paste it into Edit, save it, close it, then
run sh on it from the Shell, and delete the temporary Edit file.
It would be oh-so-nice to be able to copy it from Mail, and say
"paste | sh" or "sh </dev/scrap".
Heck, I do this all the time from within GNU Emacs. I thought NeXT
was supposed to have the latest word in user interfaces!
--
Bruce Robertson
Hundred Acre Software, Reno, NV
Domain: bruce@pooh.com
UUCP: ...!uunet!tahoe.unr.edu!heather!brucegerrit@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Gerrit) (07/25/89)
In article <1515@garcon.cso.uiuc.edu> dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) writes: >In article <2098@hub.UUCP> dz@cornu.ucsb.edu (Daniel James Zerkle) writes: >>>cut - like cat, only it would write into the scrap, not stdout >>>... >>Cut: prgname > /tmp/scrap (replace scrap) > >The obvious problem with this is that /tmp/scrap means NOTHING to >Edit, WriteNow, the Digital Library, or anything else that uses >Cut, Copy, and Paste from the AppKit. > >I need to be able to paste into <generic unix command> something I >have just copied from <whiz-bang NeXT application>, and vice-versa. I just exerted my eyeballs for an evening and have created a solution to this problem, using the available goodies on the NeXT. What you have described seems to be almost exactly what the Pasteboard class was designed for. The only flaw until now was that there wasn't a tool to provide generic access to the Pasteboard. If you have the Tech Docs, Chapter 9, pages 4-7 cover the Pasteboard. Using the documentation I slapped together a little 3K program (*and* a man page, too!) which allows you to see what types of things are on the pasteboard (there are only about 4 "standard" ones) and to fetch any one of them (iterate if you want more than one), or to put something on the pasteboard. It can be picked up from the archive on cc.purdue.edu via anonymous ftp. It is called "pub/next/source/pb.tar.Z" - retrieve in binary mode. Gerrit Huizenga NeXT Workstation Support Purdue University Computing Center gerrit@cc.purdue.edu