joe@oregon.uoregon.edu (Joe St Sauver) (07/17/89)
In addition to NeXT related work, I also need to continue to support VAX/VMS users. This is challenging (at least from the NeXT) due to the absence of VT100 keypad support on the 0.9 terminal application. Does anyone have a workaround for this? Will 1.0 include a true/complete VT100 emulator? Thanks for any suggestions, Joe St Sauver (JOE@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU) Statistical Programmer and Consultant University of Oregon Computing Center
march@m.cs.uiuc.edu (07/19/89)
I agree, the VT100 emulation is *VERY* poor. Anyone have, "vttest"? The
program which exactingly tests a terminal's emulation of a VT100.
Terminal 0.9 fails the test miserably.
Well, that's my 2 cents ....
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Why might NeXT not ship a decent terminal emulator? Read their Third-Party Programs and Products booklet. Look at the ads in any of the magazines targeted at DEC customers; vendors get hundreds of dollars for "DEC-compatible" terminal emulators for IBM PCs (even though good ones are available for free!). C'mon, terminal emulators aren't \that/ hard to write. Somebody please volunteer, and stick it on cs.orst.edu. Simple enough? -=EPS=- / SFSU
gsg0384@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (07/21/89)
I wish we will have xterm emulation rather than vt100 emulation for just two reason. A bigger vt100 window and being able to scroll up. Hugh
ell@mitre.org (Edward L. Lafferty) (07/26/89)
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Why might NeXT not ship a decent terminal emulator?
Read their Third-Party Programs and Products booklet.
Look at the ads in any of the magazines targeted at DEC customers;
vendors get hundreds of dollars for "DEC-compatible" terminal
emulators for IBM PCs (even though good ones are available for
free!).
C'mon, terminal emulators aren't \that/ hard to write. Somebody
please volunteer, and stick it on cs.orst.edu. Simple enough?
I disagree. Having written the one for the Sun -- Public Domain
version, I can tell you that to REALLY emulate a VT100 is a bear! If
all you want is to answer the remote query dequences and then be able
to do straight ascii text display -- sure, maybe not too hard. But ,
graphics, double high, double wide, scrolling, 132 char screen,
reverse, bold, blink, and more and more and more. When I get my NeXT
which should be soon, I'll see what I can do to move the code but I
doubt it will be easy since it is in Sunview form.
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roller@Jessica.stanford.edu (Jason Deines) (07/27/89)
Well, I'm in the process of writing an improved vt100 emulator. I have one that runs under Terminal; sort of "cleans up" the response from the App supplied by NeXT. We've been using it here at my group at Stanford and it seems pretty solid, though it doesn't completely pass vttest validation. If people are interested I'll make it available -- suggestions to archive sites would be welcomed. Eventually I'd like to get it running with scrollbars, resizing, and the whole nine yards, but I don't know when I might get that version up and running. If there's some feature you'd like to see, again, let me know. Jason Deines Academic Information Resources roller@jessica.stanford.edu Sweet Hall, Third Floor (415) 723-1055 Stanford, CA 94305