epsilon@wet.UUCP (Eric P. Scott) (07/24/89)
I don't suppose NeXT made the appropriate kernel changes to support Van Jacobsen's traceroute... 1.0 maybe? -=EPS=- / SFSU
epsilon@wet.UUCP (Eric P. Scott) (07/27/89)
I got a reply from someone inside NeXT, Inc. 1.0 does not fix all known problems, and will not provide complete IP support. That's planned for a subsequent release. The impression I got (although not explicitly stated) was that 1.0 is pretty much frozen at this point. -=EPS=- / SFSU Hit 'n' now. Do we lack confidence in NeXT's support for higher education? Let's just say ... we have a bunch of Suns on order. Our 9 NeXTs have the best price/performance ratio and look-and-feel of any of our workstations. We have a commitment to support them and develop applications. They just don't do everything we need right now. And we don't have sources!!!
avie@wb1.cs.cmu.edu (Avadis Tevanian) (07/27/89)
In article <327@wet.UUCP> epsilon@wet.UUCP (Eric P. Scott) writes: >I got a reply from someone inside NeXT, Inc. >1.0 does not fix all known problems, and will not provide >complete IP support. That's planned for a subsequent release. >The impression I got (although not explicitly stated) was that >1.0 is pretty much frozen at this point. > > -=EPS=- / SFSU Before anyone gets the wrong idea, let me clarify this. 1.0 fixes all known significant bugs. We have a database of all known bugs (either discovered by us or by people in the field) and have determined which bugs are not important to fix for 1.0. (If we just tried to keep the UNIX utilities bug free we would never ship a release :-). With respect to IP, we are shipping the latest networking code released by Berkeley. We are willing to consider any later enhancements that have been talked about for a couple of years now, but they have never been released (at least so far as I can determine). -- Avadis Tevanian, Jr. (Avie) Manager, System Software Group / Chief Operating System Scientist NeXT, Inc. avie@cs.cmu.edu or avie@NeXT.com
dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) (07/28/89)
In article <5672@pt.cs.cmu.edu> avie@wb1.cs.cmu.edu (Avadis Tevanian) writes: >With respect to IP, we are shipping the latest networking code released by >Berkeley. We are willing to consider any later enhancements that have >been talked about for a couple of years now, but they have never been >released (at least so far as I can determine). Please, if you haven't done so, include the Van Jacobsen enhancements. They're only a few lines of code (really; less than 20, I think), and they affect performance on congested networks DRAMATICALLY, as well as DRAMATICALLY reduce the strain on overworked gateways. I'm sure everyone with a NeXT machine, and everyone on a network near a NeXT machine, would be very happy if you did this. -- Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.edu UUCP: {convex,uunet}!uiucuxc!dorner IfUMust: (217) 244-1765