epsilon@wet.UUCP (Eric P. Scott) (10/12/89)
Well, it does seem to run a bit faster than 0.9. It didn't crash on me in the first 20 minutes either, just got hopelessly wedged. (apparently lookupd went to lunch) Day 1 (more like a few hours) gripes: What happened to the Miniaturize box in Terminal? Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad. Also the default font and size were changed and not listed in Incompatible Changes. The man pages aren't pre-nroffed this time. The new NetInfoManager is much more cumbersome than in 0.9. I hate it. Lots of 4.3 stuff is still missing and not documented to be missing (like the plot libraries... even though ps4014 is provided). rup to a Sun 4 still fails with RPC: can't decode result. apropos with no argument gives Bus error. Dumb questions: is there a man page for /usr/bin/blit? Is there an easy way to make the NMI window bigger? I see "ntp" is now listed in services--does this have favorable implications? -=EPS=- P.S. Thanks for "holey"--I pft'ed it whenever I needed to express my feelings toward certain "features" of the new release.
jpd00964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (10/19/89)
/* Written 5:56 am Oct 12, 1989 by epsilon@wet.UUCP in uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */ /* ---------- "Disappointing first day with 1.0" ---------- */ >Well, it does seem to run a bit faster than 0.9. It didn't crash >on me in the first 20 minutes either, just got hopelessly wedged. >(apparently lookupd went to lunch) I have had 1.0 up and running for 22 days now without even a burp. I also had 0.9 running for over a month without a crash. However, I seem to be the exception. Can someone please tell me why other people are crashing left and right? >Day 1 (more like a few hours) gripes: What happened to the >Miniaturize box in Terminal? Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad. >Also the default font and size were changed and not listed in >Incompatible Changes. Complete agreement. No reason at all for this behavior. >The man pages aren't pre-nroffed this time. Sorry, but I am happy they are not. pre-nroffed files take up more space. The delay you get in typing man and letting it nroff your files on the fly are insignifagant IMHO. >Lots of 4.3 stuff is still missing and not documented to be >missing (like the plot libraries... even though ps4014 is >provided). I think a list of all that's not implemented would be larger than the list that is :->. >Dumb questions: is there a man page for /usr/bin/blit? There is no listing in the UN*X manuals for blit, so I think it safe to assume the answer is no. /* End of text from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */ Michael Rutman Softmed
chari@nueces.cactus.org (Chris Whatley) (10/19/89)
jpd00964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes: >/* Written 5:56 am Oct 12, 1989 by epsilon@wet.UUCP in uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */ >I have had 1.0 up and running for 22 days now without even a burp. I also >had 0.9 running for over a month without a crash. However, I seem to be the >exception. Can someone please tell me why other people are crashing left and >right? Same here. >>Day 1 (more like a few hours) gripes: What happened to the >>Miniaturize box in Terminal? Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad. >>Also the default font and size were changed and not listed in >>Incompatible Changes. >Complete agreement. No reason at all for this behavior. What sense is there in having a miniaturize box on the only window of an app that can be hidden? You'll always have the miniworld there, why do you need a miniwindow? -- Chris Whatley Work: chari@pelican.ma.utexas.edu (NeXT Mail) (512/471-7711 ext 123) Play: chari@nueces.cactus.org (NeXT Mail) (512/499-0475) Also: chari@emx.utexas.edu
dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) (10/19/89)
In article <1989Oct19.133324.24625@nueces.cactus.org> chari@nueces.cactus.org (Chris Whatley) writes: >What sense is there in having a miniaturize box on the only window of an >app that can be hidden? One of the nice things about the NeXT UI is that you don't have to have a window frontmost to miniaturize or close it. One of the ironies of the NeXT UI is that you DO have to bring an app to the front to HIDE it. Having a miniaturize button on Terminal is an approximate solution to this problem for Terminal. Personally, I'd like to see a way to hide an app that isn't frontmost. A "Hide" box in the title bar, or a modifier combination used with a mouse click, either in the title bar or the app's icon, would be nice. It doesn't make sense to have to bring an app to the front just to make it disappear. -- Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.edu UUCP: {convex,uunet}!uiucuxc!dorner IfUMust: (217) 244-1765
langz@asylum.SF.CA.US (Lang Zerner) (10/20/89)
In article <246300060@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> jpd00964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes: > >/* Written 5:56 am Oct 12, 1989 by epsilon@wet.UUCP in uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */ >/* ---------- "Disappointing first day with 1.0" ---------- */ >>The man pages aren't pre-nroffed this time. > >The delay you get in typing man and letting it nroff your files on the fly >are insignifagant IMHO. And even if YHO doesn't agree, what's the big deal about running catman one time? (Please don't tell me they didn't include catman...) -- Be seeing you... --Lang Zerner langz@asylum.sf.ca.us UUCP:bionet!asylum!langz ARPA:langz@athena.mit.edu "...and every morning we had to go and LICK the road clean with our TONGUES!"
jpd00964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (10/21/89)
/* Written 5:59 am Oct 20, 1989 by langz@asylum.SF.CA.US in uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */ >And even if YHO doesn't agree, what's the big deal about running catman one >time? (Please don't tell me they didn't include catman...) >-- >Be seeing you... >--Lang Zerner >langz@asylum.sf.ca.us UUCP:bionet!asylum!langz ARPA:langz@athena.mit.edu >"...and every morning we had to go and LICK the road clean with our TONGUES!" >/* End of text from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */ Good news, it's included. But its in /etc/ so you have to type in a path name if you have not modified your PATH variable. Michael Rutman Softmed