[comp.sys.next] Next MegaPixel Display

jcl@uw-apl.UUCP (Jim Luby) (10/19/89)

I've recently seen a document showing a NeXT MegaPixel Display, keyboard
and Mouse (part number N4000) available for $1000.  Can anyone tell me
how such a display interfaces with a NeXT cube that already has it's own
display.  That is, does it interface using the T-connector (part number N7100)
and ethernet or does it use one of the serial ports?  Thanks in advance for 
any information.

						Jim Luby (U. of Washington)

jpd00964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (10/21/89)

/* Written 11:05 am  Oct 19, 1989 by jcl@uw-apl.UUCP in uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */
/* ---------- "Next MegaPixel Display" ---------- */
>I've recently seen a document showing a NeXT MegaPixel Display, keyboard
>and Mouse (part number N4000) available for $1000.  Can anyone tell me
>how such a display interfaces with a NeXT cube that already has it's own
>display.  That is, does it interface using the T-connector (part number N7100)
>and ethernet or does it use one of the serial ports?  Thanks in advance for 
>any information.
>
>						Jim Luby (U. of Washington)
>/* End of text from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */


Very unnoficial no connection to NeXT following:  <<disclaimer>>

Appearently, it does not.  Rumors are that you need another logic board 
(currently running around $4000 each) for each terminal.  If you think that
that is bad, hang on.  You also need some special bus chip which is only
in the Beta stages now.  Lastly, and worst of all, the power supply is not
rated to handle multiple monitors.

All of this is unnoficial rumors that I have picked up from when I tried to
install a second monitor.  I would give you the official news, but NeXT has
been extremely quite on this issue.  

Completely unsubstantiated rumors that probable are completely false:
1>  You can hook up a second monitor to the DSP port
2>  NeXT is releasing a board which can handle multiple monitors
3>  NeXT is going to eventually make a statement before even more absurd
	rumors start flying.
4>  You will soon be able to run X-Windows over the serial port.

As you can see, not much is known beyond rumors.  I, personally, am beginning
to feel that rumor #3 is the least likely to come true :->.

Michael Rutman
Softmed

jfreem@uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman) (10/29/89)

>/* ---------- "Next MegaPixel Display" ---------- */
>I've recently seen a document showing a NeXT MegaPixel Display, keyboard
>and Mouse (part number N4000) available for $1000.  Can anyone tell me
>how such a display interfaces with a NeXT cube that already has it's own
>display.  That is, does it interface using the T-connector (part number N7100)
>and ethernet or does it use one of the serial ports?  Thanks in advance for 
>any information.
>
>						Jim Luby (U. of Washington)

I believe that that part number was created to help the folks that wanted
to use their cube at the office and at home.  Alot of folks would like to
do that without buying two machines.  The problem is that with the monitor and
keyboard, that becomes a real big package to cart around.  The simplest
solution was to sell the monitor, mouse and keyboard for a very reasonable
price and let the user have one set at home and one at work.  Then they just
have to cary the cube back and forth.  Not perfect, but quick and relativly
chip solution.

<joe>

chari@nueces.cactus.org (Chris Whatley) (10/30/89)

jfreem@uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman) writes:

>>/* ---------- "Next MegaPixel Display" ---------- */
>>I've recently seen a document showing a NeXT MegaPixel Display, keyboard
>>and Mouse (part number N4000) available for $1000.  Can anyone tell me
>>how such a display interfaces with a NeXT cube that already has it's own
>>display.  That is, does it interface using the T-connector (part number N7100)
>>and ethernet or does it use one of the serial ports?  Thanks in advance for 
>>any information.
>>
>>						Jim Luby (U. of Washington)

>I believe that that part number was created to help the folks that wanted
>to use their cube at the office and at home.  Alot of folks would like to
>do that without buying two machines.  The problem is that with the monitor and
>keyboard, that becomes a real big package to cart around.  The simplest
>solution was to sell the monitor, mouse and keyboard for a very reasonable
>price and let the user have one set at home and one at work.  Then they just
>have to cary the cube back and forth.  Not perfect, but quick and relativly
>chip solution.

You're kidding aren't you? I can't beleive that its purpose is anything
other than deception like selling something for $99.95. Anyway, who in
their right mind would do such a thing? I'd buy a Mac with a modem
and dial in using UW or something.

Isn't $1,000 a bit high for the monitor anyway?

Chris

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jgreely@oz.cis.ohio-state.edu (J Greely) (10/30/89)

In article <1989Oct29.143915.22240@uncecs.edu> jfreem@uncecs.edu
 (Joe Freeman) writes:
>I believe that that part number was created to help the folks that wanted
>to use their cube at the office and at home.  Alot of folks would like to
>do that without buying two machines.

Funny, I thought he was reading the service price list.

>The problem is that with the monitor and keyboard, that becomes a real
>big package to cart around.  The simplest solution was to sell the
>monitor, mouse and keyboard for a very reasonable price and let the
>user have one set at home and one at work.  Then they just have to
>cary the cube back and forth.

I regularly move a NeXT from office to home and back.  It's something
of a production if you use the original packing material (which I do),
but even then it's only about ten minutes work.  If I weren't packing
it up, it'd be trivial.  Yes, the cube itself is the part that's
easiest to move (as well as the sturdiest), but I doubt that there's a
very large number of people interested in keeping a spare half-NeXT
around.  For me to consider something like this, I'd have to need to
move it every day between tall buildings with no elevators, in a
sports car.

(PS: your Reply-To address is bogus: jfreem@ecsvax.uncecs.edu.UUCP)
-=-
J Greely (jgreely@cis.ohio-state.edu; osu-cis!jgreely)

phil@attctc.Dallas.TX.US (Phil Meyer) (10/30/89)

>/* ---------- "Next MegaPixel Display" ---------- */
>I've recently seen a document showing a NeXT MegaPixel Display, keyboard
>and Mouse (part number N4000) available for $1000.  Can anyone tell me
>how such a display interfaces with a NeXT cube that already has it's own
>display.  That is, does it interface using the T-connector (part number N7100)
>and ethernet or does it use one of the serial ports?  Thanks in advance for 
>any information.
>
Won't someone at Next, or someone who has done this PLEASE reply.

This is a critical issue to my company.  The Next needs to be positioned
as a mutli-user computer to be successful in the office.  A network of
multi-user Nexts seems to me to be VERY attractive!

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epsilon@wet.UUCP (Eric P. Scott) (10/30/89)

In article <1989Oct29.194721.4808@nueces.cactus.org>
	chari@nueces.cactus.org (Chris Whatley) writes:
>                                                        Anyway, who in
>their right mind would do such a thing? I'd buy a Mac with a modem
>and dial in using UW or something.

$1000 doesn't sound too bad considering the alternatives.

Slight change of subject--suppose I've decided that it's ok to
drive around with a NeXT in the trunk.  My particular application
doesn't need the MegaPixel or the printer.  I want to be able to
do the following--
	- replace the MegaPixel with a plug-compatible device
	  that has the Power button, an NMI/reboot button,
	  the audio jacks, the keyboard LEDs, and possibly the
	  mouse buttons or Alternate/Command.  No keyboard,
	  mouse, or video.
	- Allow the use of Serial Port A as the ROM console and
	  UNIX console.

					-=EPS=-