[comp.sys.next] Printing on the NeXT

jaz@abvax.UUCP (Jack A. Zucker) (11/10/89)

Since printing to the NeXT laser printer seems to be the biggest bottleneck,
has anyone used the NeXT with a "smart" postscript printer ? Do the NeXT
applications support sending the postscript directly to a printer ? QMS and
Brother both make 16mz 68000 based postscript printers that can be bought
from NY for about $3800.00. They are 300dpi and can print 8 pages / minute,
but the good part is that the computer can send the relatively small
(in most cases) postscript source to the printer, and the CPU in the printer
does the hard work. Before anyone says, "well the NeXT printer is superior
because it has 400dpi", well I have been using a 300dpi printer at work,
and never have felt the need for more resolution.

 Also, there is a company called NewGen that makes two
Intel i860 (risc) based postscript printers that have scsi interfaces. At
$4495.00 for the 300dpi, and $5295.00 for the 400dpi, these are the cheapest
printers that I have seen with a scsi connector.

On a related subject, does anyone know why more printers are not equipped
with Enet ports ? With Enet cards selling for <$200.00 for the IBM PC,
I would think we would see lots of cheap laser printers with this type of
connection. The Imagen printer we have at work has Ethernet, but it costs
about $20,000.00 !!!!


jaz@calvin.icd.ab.com

olson@brutus.cs.uiuc.edu (Robert Olson) (11/11/89)

You can use a regular PostScript printer. We've used Apple Laserwriters
and a QMS PostScript printer with no problems - they were already there on
the network and we just added the printcap entries for them (in NetInfo)
and they work fine. Haven't tried with a printer hooked directly to the
cube, tho. Don't see any reason it shouldn't work - when you print to a 
non-NeXT printer it just spits out PostScript.

Bob
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morrison@grads.cs.ubc.ca (Rick Morrison) (11/11/89)

In article <953@abvax.UUCP> jaz@abvax.UUCP (Jack A. Zucker) writes:
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>Since printing to the NeXT laser printer seems to be the biggest bottleneck,
>has anyone used the NeXT with a "smart" postscript printer ?
I can't say that I find printing to the NeXT printer a big bottle neck.
In my opinion a dumb printer is the way to go. The memory that the smart
printers require is much better utilized on the host.
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dtgcube (Edward Jung) (11/11/89)

> Since printing to the NeXT laser printer seems to be the biggest bottleneck,
> has anyone used the NeXT with a "smart" postscript printer ? 
[...]
> jaz@calvin.icd.ab.com

Yes.  We use a Qume CrystalPrint Publisher, a RISC-based, Postscript compatible
LCD shutter-based printer attached via a 19.2 kbaud serial connection to a Cube.
Besides the incredible inconvenience of not being able to download type 1 Adobe
fonts to it (yet!  I presume this will change soon), it works very well.

The font downloading problem is not an issue for *true* postscript printers.
The Qume was quite inexpensive (clone, you know, and a Developer's discount).

Email me if you need more information (e.g. how to set it all up); it's pretty
straight-forward since NeXT system software directly supports an Apple Laserwriter
across the serial port, and pretty much everybody is compatible with *that*.

BTW, printing is a heck of alot faster, in general, than when using the
NeXT printer.  But if you do alot of gray-scale work, the 400 dpi makes an
amazing difference.

Edward Jung (ed@dtg.com is usually best)


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halliday@cheddar.cc.ubc.ca (Laura Halliday) (11/14/89)

Actually, I don't find the printing speed unacceptable on a NeXT (maybe I've
been corrupted by LaserWriter Plus print times...), but what I'd *really* like
to see is some way of adjusting the priority of the imaging process so that I
can do useful work while the system is printing something. Perhaps this could
be a new Preferences item: users who want fast printing could set the priority
high, and sit back and watch while the cube prints. Users who want to do some-
thing else while the system is printing could set the priority lower.

Transmitting the bitmap to the printer is a hard real-time operation, which is
why the printer has its own DMA channel. But constructing that bitmap in the
first place has no real-time constraints, other than the user's patience...

...laura