karl@cgdisis.uucp (Karl Sierka) (12/22/89)
Hi. I was wondering why this note was put at the end of the cl man page on
the NeXT.
"The online documentation and Common Lisp: the Reference
assume some knowledge of Lisp. If you are a beginner, we
suggest that you learn Lisp from one of the many standard
texts available. One very good introductory text is Lisp by
Patrick Winston and Berthold Horn (2nd Edition, 1984,
Addison Wesley, Reading MA - be sure to use the second edi-
tion)."
Why do they recommend that you be sure to get the second edition, and not
the third? Is it because CLOS won't work in Allegro on the NeXT? Or is
just that CLOS does not come with the NeXT? The NeXT comes with lots of other
goodies. Why not CLOS? Will CLUE or CLIM be supported when X11 is finally
released for the NeXT?
thanks,
karl
p.s., I am still waiting to hear about third party disks on the NeXT.
Karl Sierka sierka@ncar.ucar.edu or karl@cgdisis.ucar.edu (128.117.24.18)
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Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are not those of my employer.cox@Franz.COM (Charles A. Cox) (12/23/89)
In article <5773@ncar.ucar.edu> karl@cgdisis.uucp (Karl Sierka) writes:
Hi. I was wondering why this note was put at the end of the cl man
page on the NeXT.
"The online documentation and Common Lisp: the Reference
assume some knowledge of Lisp. If you are a beginner, we
suggest that you learn Lisp from one of the many standard
texts available. One very good introductory text is Lisp by
Patrick Winston and Berthold Horn (2nd Edition, 1984, Addison
Wesley, Reading MA - be sure to use the second edi- tion)."
Why do they recommend that you be sure to get the second edition,
and not the third? Is it because CLOS won't work in Allegro on the
NeXT? Or is just that CLOS does not come with the NeXT? The NeXT
comes with lots of other goodies. Why not CLOS? Will CLUE or CLIM
be supported when X11 is finally released for the NeXT?
This response is from David Margolies, the documentation manager at
Franz Inc. and the person who wrote the above paragraph:
Thank you for your comments. We recommended the second edition over
the *first* (which did not describe Common Lisp). At the time the
description was prepared, we were unaware of the existence of the third
edition. It would have been better to say "2nd edition or later ...
be sure not to get the first edition."
Much of the functionality of CLOS is available in PCL which is included
with Allegro CL on the NeXT. A complete version of CLOS is being developed
and information on it will be announced closer to the release date.
CLUE and CLIM require X11 which is not currently available. Information
on the availability of X11 should come from NeXT directly.
David Margolies
Franz Inc.
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