[comp.sys.next] Please, no more IBM Kills NeXT !!

feldman@umd5.umd.edu (Mark Feldman) (02/19/90)

Let's not start another machine vs. machine holy war in this group.

Different problems require different solutions.  The RS/6000 series provides
some heavy duty crunching, color, and a NextStep development platform (for
additional $$$, I believe).  It does not come with the bundled applications,
it does not have sound, and the logo isn't as colorful.

Everyone keeps going back to speed as a benchamrk, and currently the NeXT is
slow for a "workstation" class machine.  Undoubtedly, a machine based on the
68040 will be much faster.  Faster than the RS/6000?  I don't know, nor do I
care.  I want to know if it will be fast enough to do what I want it to do.
For many applications, including mine, more bang for the buck could be
achieved by adding a few more 68030/68882 CPU sets (w/DSP, if possible) to
the current NeXT, after all, Mach supports multuprocessing.

Since the new RS/6000 series is RISC and speaks native X, I would say that
IBMs POWERstations and POWERservers (Performance Optimized With Enhanced
RISC -- really!) are in more direct competition with DECstations,
SPARCstations, and the like than with NeXT.

The one sure thing is that my old Apple ][ plus is really falling behind:-)

  Mark
  

UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) (02/20/90)

In article <6151@umd5.umd.edu>, feldman@umd5.umd.edu (Mark Feldman) says:


>Everyone keeps going back to speed as a benchamrk, and currently the NeXT is
>slow for a "workstation" class machine.  Undoubtedly, a machine based on the

You're right, and "they" are wrong.  A couple of years ago, the trade rag
Infor Week had a Mac v. Msdos shoot out.  They created a typical business-ish
project that required some spreadsheet work, some pie charts, retrieval of
data from a database, and the creation of a typical major project proposal.
Groups of two or three worked for a couple of days to produce results.
There were several teams.

Their "benchmark" was how good the final production was, since time spent
was about equal.

Mac won, handily.

I hope they do it again, but include NeXT, and create a project where
being tied to a network, using email, and Mathematica are good for some
tasks.

I hope they wait til Wingz is available.
>68040 will be much faster.  Faster than the RS/6000?  I don't know, nor do I
>care.  I want to know if it will be fast enough to do what I want it to do.
>For many applications, including mine, more bang for the buck could be
>achieved by adding a few more 68030/68882 CPU sets (w/DSP, if possible) to
>the current NeXT, after all, Mach supports multuprocessing.

>Since the new RS/6000 series is RISC and speaks native X, I would say that
>IBMs POWERstations and POWERservers (Performance Optimized With Enhanced
>RISC -- really!) are in more direct competition with DECstations,
>SPARCstations, and the like than with NeXT.

>The one sure thing is that my old Apple ][ plus is really falling behind:-)

>  Mark