[comp.sys.next] Loss of non-NetInfo Network Configuration

gary@pnl-geo.UUCP ( Gary Black ) (03/01/90)

I am having some repeated diffuculty in keeping a NeXT machine alive on a
heterogeneous (non-NetInfo) thin ethernet network.  It seems that when
the network is interrupted temporarily by disconnecting the BNC connector
from the Next for instance, the network configuration is lost as well as
the link to the user accounts.  It comes up logged in automatically as
"me" and gives the message "Cannot connect to NetInfo server.  Assuming
no NetInfo parents" when I inquire about the local configuration with
NetManager.  It still lists the network configured the way it was when
it worked correctly.  The interesting aspect is that it will lose the
configuration after the machine is powered down before the network is
interrupted.

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dml@esl.com (Denis Lynch) (03/06/90)

In article <23460002@pnl-geo.UUCP> gary@pnl-geo.UUCP ( Gary Black ) writes:
   I am having some repeated diffuculty in keeping a NeXT machine alive on a
   heterogeneous (non-NetInfo) thin ethernet network.  It seems that when
   the network is interrupted temporarily by disconnecting the BNC connector
   from the Next for instance, the network configuration is lost as well as
   the link to the user accounts.  It comes up logged in automatically as
   "me" and gives the message "Cannot connect to NetInfo server.  Assuming
   no NetInfo parents" when I inquire about the local configuration with
   NetManager.

We have no trouble here with a (very large) net of non-NeXT machines,
that happens to have a little NeXT net on it.

If you reboot a NeXT without the network connected, it determines that
it isn't on one (logically enough) and doesn't bring up any of the
NetInfo stuff. There are two things you might want to know:

1) You don't need to power the machine off to disconnect/reconnect
   the net. It won't even mind having the net gone for a while.
   Just pull the T off the cube, do whatever you need, and put the
   T back on when you're done.

2) If you want to bring NetInfo up even though there isn't really
   a net connected, do this: Get a T connector, and put a 50-ohm
   terminator on EACH arm. Connect that to the cube's ethernet
   connector, and it will think it's hooked to a network. (Of
   course if the machine isn't a NetInfo Cofiguration Server it
   will wait 'til it finds one, which might be a long time!)
   We use this trick when we need to cart a machine to another
   building for a demo or something.

In other words, your problem has nothing to do with disconnecting the
network, it has to do with booting the machine with the network
disconnected.

Denis Lynch
ESL Inc.

gary@pnl-geo.UUCP ( Gary Black ) (03/09/90)

I have found the solution to mye problem through NeXT technical support.
Mail to ask_next@next.com is an effective way to get answers where as calling
the NeXT support number is not.  They only talk with liscensed NeXT developers.

The problem was that we (read I) pulled the /etc/hosts file from the system
that is serving as the name server for the NeXT but named it something other
than hosts.  I did an niload hosts . <yourhostsfile as per instructions in
the network and system administration manual.  This properly fired up the
netinfo network daemon and connected to the network until the machine was
rebooted.  At this time it looked for /etc/hosts but couldn't find it.
All that was necessary to remedy the problem was to rename the fi transferredd
over to hosts.  Since I lost the user accounts without the network, this
had to be done by rebooting in single user mode from the monitor.  
Everything came back properly configured after renaming the fe and rebooting
conventionally.  I hope this saves someone else this pain because the network
and system administration manual does not explicitly tell you what to name
the file.