louiex2@portia.Stanford.EDU (chris overton) (03/04/90)
Does anyone out there know how to read news from the shell application? When I try to do this, I get a "No termcap entry found" error. I want to use shell rather than terminal so I can use copy and paste operations. Thanks in advance!
louiex2@portia.Stanford.EDU (chris overton) (03/13/90)
About a week ago I asked: >Does anyone out there know how to read news from the shell application? >When I try to do this, I get a "No termcap entry found" error. I want to >use shell rather than terminal so I can use copy and paste operations. Since there seems to be interest in this question, I'll post some replies: 1) From agm@cs.brown.edu (Axel Merk): $The problem with reading news from the Shell is that it is not a terminal $(i.e. it does not support ascii sequences). I would suggest, you start $a terminal instead of a shell. If you need to use a shell, I think $cheating is the best way. If you pretend your shell is a vt100 - terminal, $it won't hurt a lot with the shell-application, as only very few $escape sequences are used (-> it will look a little messy, but legible). $>> set term=vt100 $You can also try some dumb terminal emulations - usually "set term=dialup" $is a safe way to go. $ $The cut&paste should work now, although it might not always be in the $desired format... I found "set term=dialup" to display less garbage. 2) From Charles_Oei@NeXT.COM $one solution is that $you can use a 3rd party product called Communicae $which combines the Shell and Terminal and then some $from Active Ingredients, 617 576 2000 Thanks again for your replies! Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: glob Expires: References: Sender: Reply-To: louiex2@portia.Stanford.EDU (chris overton) Followup-To: Distribution: usa Organization: Stanford University Keywords:
mramakri@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (Murlidar Ramakrishnan) (03/14/90)
Hi folks, I have a similar problem. tn3270 terminal emulator for IBM mainframes work perfectly in terminal mode when it is set to vt100. BUt if I try to do the same thing on the SHELL, screen is garbled, I tried setting the term type to vt100. But still it is garbled!!. Any help will be appreciated Murli Ram mramakri@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu ENT0086@OUACCVMB.BITNET
mic@ut-emx.UUCP (Mic Kaczmarczik) (03/15/90)
In article <1212@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU> mramakri@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (Murlidar Ramakrishnan) writes: > >Hi folks, > I have a similar problem. tn3270 terminal emulator for IBM >mainframes work perfectly in terminal mode when it is set to vt100. >BUt if I try to do the same thing on the SHELL, screen is garbled, I tried setting the term type to vt100. But still it is garbled!!. >Any help will be appreciated > >Murli Ram >mramakri@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu >ENT0086@OUACCVMB.BITNET The Shell app just doesn't emulate a full-screen terminal very well -- it's a lot more like a ``glass tty''. If you want to run a full-screen program such as tn3270, you're going to *have* to use Terminal. It would be nice if Terminal and Shell were merged; the xterm terminal emulator for the X window system has been doing it for a long time, so it's not technically impossible to have a history review buffer in a full-screen terminal emulator. -- Mic Kaczmarczik mic@emx.utexas.edu (Internet) Unix/VMS/Cyber Services mic@utaivc (BITNET) UT Austin Computation Center ...!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!mic (UUCP) COM 1 / UT Austin / Austin, TX 78712 ``Good tea. Nice house.'' -- Worf Please direct consulting questions to gripe@{emx,ix2,ccwf,iv1} as appropriate.
mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) (03/15/90)
In article <26107@ut-emx.UUCP> mic@emx.utexas.edu (Mic Kaczmarczik) writes: >It would be nice if Terminal and Shell were merged; the xterm terminal >emulator for the X window system has been doing it for a long time, so >it's not technically impossible to have a history review buffer in a >full-screen terminal emulator. Better yet, get rid of both Terminal and Shell in favor of xterm. Provide some nice interface by which you can get xterm started from the dock. The only thing I use Terminal for any more is to start up twm and kterm (kanji version of xterm). Another winning feature about xterm over Terminal/Shell -- the source is available so we can fix bugs in it. Give me open standards and open software any time... _____ ____ ---+--- /-\ Mark Crispin Atheist & Proud _|_|_ _|_ || ___|__ / / 6158 Lariat Loop NE R90/6 pilot |_|_|_| /|\-++- |=====| / / Bainbridge Island, WA "Gaijin! Gaijin!" --|-- | |||| |_____| / \ USA 98110-2098 "Gaijin ha doko ka?" /|\ | |/\| _______ / \ +1 (206) 842-2385 "Niichan ha gaijin." / | \ | |__| / \ / \ mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU "Chigau. Gaijin ja nai. kisha no kisha ga kisha de kisha-shita Omae ha gaijin darou." sumomo mo momo, momo mo momo, momo ni mo iroiro aru "Iie, boku ha nihonjin." uraniwa ni wa niwa, niwa ni wa niwa niwatori ga iru "Souka. Yappari gaijin!"