[comp.sys.next] Printer problems

ronniek@cs.tamu.edu (Ronnie Killough) (03/24/90)

Oh, boy.  What a BRILLIANT piece of work by those lame-brained
NeXT folks.  Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why force
someone to have a default printer when they don't want one?

My problem is this.  I recently changed the name of a NeXT
printer.  From experience I knew (thought I knew) that the
oh so wonderful NeXT machine HAD to have a printer named
Local_Printer or it, or one of the applications would (like
the PrinterTester or PrintManager, I don't know) would edit the
hated NetInfo printcap database and ADD a printer named Local_Printer.
Also, in order to be able to print with lpr <filename> (without
specifying -P<printername>, it had to be Local_Printer).

So, I named the printer Local_Printer, only to find out that some
people still could not print to the printer using just lpr <filename>.
In one case, for example, it insisted on using a non-existant printer
named netnp.  Where it got this, I don't know.

So, recently I changed the name of another NeXT printer in another
network, and called it Local_Printer with alias next521.  Previously,
it was called Local_Printer with alias x521.  I loaded this into
(yes, the hated) NetInfo database, so that NO WHERE (I thought) was
there a record of the name x521.  When I tried to print using
lpr <filename>, it says, No printer x521.  That almost got that NeXT
tossed in the trash (oh, glory day).

Out of curiousity, I grepped the .NeXT/.NeXTdefaults.L file or whatever
it is called in my home directory, and sure enough, the name x521
appears.  I opened Preferences, nope, no printer setting there. So,
I opened WriteNow, selected the Print menu, Choose, and clicked the
new printer name.  Quit WriteNow, did lpr <filename>, and sure enough,
it print.  This is absurd.  I can see saving the default printer for each
application, but forcing this to be the default everywhere is absurd.
If that is to be a feature, it should be in Preferences.  I am fed up with
trying to figure out thousands of these type problems that seem to
crawl out of the cube constantly.        

You guessed.  My worst enemy...NetInfo.

Question - does anyone know how to prevent the NeXT from doing this?
Does the NeXT really have to have a printer named Local_Printer?  How
does the NetInfo printcap file get modified periodically when I am the
only one with the root password?  Any ideas?

Thanks for listening to my crap.

Ronnie Killough

mdixon@parc.xerox.com (Mike Dixon) (03/24/90)

there's no requirement to have a printer named Local_Printer (i don't
have one, and netinfo never gives me grief about it).

there's a global default printer, and (like all other defaults)
it's stored in the preferences database (under keys System/Printer).

to set the default printer from a shell, say
   dwrite System Printer <printername>

to see what your default printer is, say dread System Printer

if you say lpr <filename>, that's the printer it will go to.

if you have no System/Printer entry in the preferences database,
it uses Local_Printer.

the Preferences application probably ought to give you a hook into
this; i guess the rational is that you don't want to set the
printer unless you're printing something, if you're printing it
through appkit you get a button, and if you're mucking with lpr
you're probably the sort who would rather use dwrite than Preferences.
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                                             .mike.