[comp.sys.next] comparing NeXT vs Mac on slow sales rampup

yost@esquire.UUCP (David A. Yost) (04/07/90)

When you mention how slow the NeXT has been to
catch on, often someone will say, yeah, but the
Mac took a while to catch on, too.

I was just cleaning out my files tonight, and I came
across some interesting numbers given to me a while
back by MacWeek's market research department.

Macintoshes shipped:

   1984  259,000
   1985  231,000
   1986  354,000
   1987  526,000

(anyone have 1988 and 1989 figures?)

All rumor I have heard puts NeXT's shipments at
between 10,000 and 15,000 in the first, what has it been,
9 months now?

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barry@mesquite.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) (04/07/90)

In article <1919@esquire.UUCP> yost@esquire.UUCP (David A. Yost) writes:
>Macintoshes shipped:
>   1984  259,000
>   1985  231,000
>   1986  354,000
>   1987  526,000
 
But you should really compare NeXTs and MacII**s---the NeXT
is infinitely more machine than a plain Mac. The fact is, most users
that do just fine with their 286 IBM clones will never need
the power of a NeXT, and sales will not rival those of personal
computers until (if ever) the price drops by a factor of 2--3.

Barry Merriman

ching@pepsi.amd.com (Mike Ching) (04/11/90)

In article <16451@nigel.udel.EDU> evenson@ee.udel.edu (Mark Evenson) writes:
>
>	According to the latest UNIX world, in the "News Brief" section, NeXT
>has been moving only "hundreds of boxes" a month, and calls this "slow".
>
>		Mark Evenson


When the Mac was introduced, Apple built a factory capable of producing a
machine every 17 seconds (this is from memory, it was some time under a
minute). It may have taken a while for it to be run at full capacity but
probably never was as low as hundreds/month. Slow is a fair description
of NeXT production.

mike ching

kelvin@cs.utexas.edu (Kelvin Thompson) (04/14/90)

In article <29830@amdcad.AMD.COM>, ching@pepsi.amd.com (Mike Ching) writes:
] In article <16451@nigel.udel.EDU> evenson@ee.udel.edu (Mark Evenson) writes:
] >
] >	According to the latest UNIX world, in the "News Brief" section, NeXT
] >has been moving only "hundreds of boxes" a month, and calls this "slow".
] 
] When the Mac was introduced, Apple built a factory capable of producing a
] machine every 17 seconds (this is from memory, it was some time under a
] minute). It may have taken a while for it to be run at full capacity but
] probably never was as low as hundreds/month. Slow is a fair description
] of NeXT production.

Does the Lisa count at "when the Mac was introduced"?  I'd be curious to
hear what the ramp-up of the Lisa was like compared to the cube.  I know
both were pretty anemic compared to aspirations.  Maybe steve will get
lucky with his second cube like his did with his second Lisa (a.k.a. Mac).

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