bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) (09/26/90)
In article <DLBRES10.90Sep26100813@pc.usl.edu> dlbres10@pc.usl.edu (Fraering Philip) writes: >Give Byte a break; most of the issue, except for the editor's column, was >probrably 'put to bed' before they had all the details. >November issue will probrably have lots on the NeXT My comments were on long-term BYTE coverage, not the contents of the last issue, and they still stand. -- Dave Bakken Internet: bakken@cs.arizona.edu Dept. of Comp. Sci.; U.of Ariz. UUCP: uunet!arizona!bakken Tucson, AZ 85721; USA Bitnet: bakken%cs.arizona.edu@Arizrvax AT&T: +1 602 621 4976 FAX: +1 602 621 4246
keithp@xerxes.tamu.edu (Keith D Perkins) (09/27/90)
> How can Byte be so out of it?
Byte isn't out of it. The articles and info you read in there were
probably written weeks, if not months, in advance. Byte probably
did not have time to get a new layout on the magazine before they
went to press. The byte out on the stands now was probably going
through printing as Steve Jobs was talking. Expect to see something
by the end of this month at the earliest.
Personally, I'm hoping Personal Workstation updates their Application
watch. Judging from the summer and fall catalogs there are a lot
of applications that they just don't know about (yet!).
Keith Perkins
Texas A&M Universitywb1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (William M. Bumgarner) (09/27/90)
Excerpts From Captions of netnews.comp.sys.next: 26-Sep-90 Byte fails to keep up. Roger B. Kirchner@umn-cs (385) >How can Byte be so out of it? > A: By having a three month lead time... expect the Big NeXT issue sometime in November/December. neat. As the world of computing technology moves faster and faster, Bytes lead time gets to be longer and longer. b.bum
acs020@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (acs020) (09/27/90)
What is wrong with Byte ?????? Not even a Microbytes mention on the New NeXT s ? This is all very strange... The New Nexts didn't make it to the cover of PC week, there was only a brief mention on page 14, Info week(sp?) had it on the cover but also had 2 scathing editorials on how NeXT was doomed for ever. Neither Business week or Newsweek,Time etc. or the local paper Washington Post, to my knowledge had ANYTHING on the new machines.... Whats going on ????
daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) (09/27/90)
In article <cb0CSau00WBNI2Z4lP@andrew.cmu.edu> wb1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (William M. Bumgarner) writes: >Excerpts From Captions of netnews.comp.sys.next: >26-Sep-90 Byte fails to keep up. Roger B. Kirchner@umn-cs (385) >>How can Byte be so out of it? >A: By having a three month lead time... expect the Big NeXT issue >sometime in November/December. >neat. As the world of computing technology moves faster and faster, >Bytes lead time gets to be longer and longer. In BYTE's defense, they do attempt to offset lead times by working with manufacturer's who are interested, so that the preview of a particular machine hits the newsstands the same month that machine is announced. When we introduced the Amiga 3000 last April, we had BYTEs on hand with the cover story. This, of course, requires that you [a] have reasonable pre-production machines to show off to BYTE several months before the machine is officially announced, and [b] you trust BYTE not to leak anything out before you're ready. In general, though, there's no "need" for the coverage to lag the announcement by 3 months. And it's often to a manufacturer's advantage to get the machine in the magazine press at the same time that all the excitement generated by some kind of official announcement and newpaper articles is still going strong. >b.bum -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy Standing on the shoulders of giants leaves me cold -REM
cabbagehead@saturn.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Lloyd) (09/27/90)
maybe the press just can't believe how awesome and inexpensive these new next machines are.. :) Chris cabbagehead@saturn.ucc.umass.edu
gumby@Cygnus.COM (David Vinayak Wallace) (09/28/90)
Date: 27 Sep 90 16:02:30 GMT From: cabbagehead@saturn.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Lloyd) maybe the press just can't believe how awesome and inexpensive these new next machines are.. :) I don't want to sound paranoid but I suspect some folks don't WANT to know how a&i the machines are. Case in point: The morning after the announcement when I went to look at the paper I ran into a friend who said he'd already seen the writeup. "What did it say?" "Oh," he said, "about what you'd expect: slow, overpriced; nothing new." Dissapointed I opened the paper to discover that there were no technical specs in the news report at all! When I confronted my friend he said "well, uh, you know, it's a 68K-based machine; can't possibly be fast, not a risc, etc..." I think he's not alone. As for marketing: One thing I like about NeXT is their attitude towards the competition. It really turns me off to see Sun's president whining that they lost some deal for political reasons -- that their "enemies" couldn't stand to see sun "lead yet another techincal coup." While NeXT just pushes better and better machines out the door. On the other hand, they do need better evangelism!
mcgredo@prism.cs.orst.edu (Don Mcgregor) (09/28/90)
Lance Bledsoe writes: >Don't you people realize how many weeks before >publication that the content of the magazine must be finalized. The >only problem that BYTE has, is that their "September" issue says >"October" or "November" on the cover ;-). > But Byte often has cover stories on new machines within a few weeks of when they're announced. Macs, PCs, and SPARCstations often get top billing when they hit the streets. I presume this is because the companies making those machines give Byte the inside scoop months in advance. It looks as if NeXT decided not to, for whatever reason. Don McGregor mcgredo@prism.cs.orst.edu